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    Quote Originally Posted by Micabe View Post
    Does that Epic collection collect all the ties in issues as well? It just that it’s says that it has 488 pages but Im sure the 2 collected editions that came out years back was more than 488 pages combined?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ken Ashcroft View Post
    Does that Epic collection collect all the ties in issues as well? It just that it’s says that it has 488 pages but Im sure the 2 collected editions that came out years back was more than 488 pages combined?
    Yep, that's the full story right there. Even includes the What If...? issue that came out after the fact.

    I asked the same thing about this edition vs. the 2 vol. set from years ago; I honestly don't remember what was in that set that this skipped, but it wasn't crucial. And of course the newer book has much thinner paper.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ken Ashcroft View Post
    Does that Epic collection collect all the ties in issues as well? It just that it’s says that it has 488 pages but Im sure the 2 collected editions that came out years back was more than 488 pages combined?
    I think that the 2 volume edition had multiple What If? And multiple Captain America issues to pad out out the two books. As I recall. They were t really necessary. I think all you need are the 19 issues contained in the main storyline. The Epic collection does that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ken Ashcroft View Post
    Does that Epic collection collect all the ties in issues as well? It just that it’s says that it has 488 pages but Im sure the 2 collected editions that came out years back was more than 488 pages combined?
    It didn't have any tie-ins. This was an actual crossover, not an event, so you had to buy all 19 issues, across 7 titles, to get the full story. It did have two aftermaths in Captain America #401 and Quasar #35, Avengers West Coast #83 spotlighting the 'home team' (the Avengers that didn't go to space) but it didn't touch on the war and a back up story on Wonder Man Annual #1 touched up on the war but these 4 issues weren't tie-ins, or necessary to get the full story.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SJNeal View Post
    Yep, that's the full story right there. Even includes the What If...? issue that came out after the fact.

    I asked the same thing about this edition vs. the 2 vol. set from years ago; I honestly don't remember what was in that set that this skipped, but it wasn't crucial. And of course the newer book has much thinner paper.
    Yeah, although I have almost all the Avengers Epic Collection (even when the have material that I have collected elsewhere), I skipped this one and stuck with the two vols I already had, after all, it was basically the same stuff. I wonder how they are gonna do the Crossing for the Epic Collection series. That one only fit an Omnibus (which I have).

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    Has epic collection done secret wars 2 or evolutionary war yet? Wonder how secret wars will handle the rom and micronuts issues and evolutionary war the alf issue? Just ignore them or front cover only with a wrote "what went on in this issue?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nomads1 View Post
    Let's agree to disagree. I LOVE Operation Galactic Storm (even the name, IMHO, is awsome). Ever since Stern left (was fired) the Avengers were lacking direction. Writers came and went too briefly, whatever they were setting up, soon abandoned by who came after. I mean, I was actually excited to see where Simonson would have gone with his "New Avengers", but Reed, Sue and Gilgamesh were soon discarded by Byrne, who seemed to employ his best story ideas and writing over at WCA. Fabian Nicieza was one of my favorite writers at the time, but he was just filling in, and didn't leave any real mark on the team (even though the Crossing Line is great). Larry Hama had a more political take on the Avengers, and also left quite a few threads lieing around that no other writer picked up, departing after a mere eight issues. So, when Harras came along, and gave the team some stability, bringing back a couple of favorites and foccussing on them, it was, IMHO, a breath of frsh air (even if he was clearly trying to make the Avengers more like the X-Men, who he was editing at the time). At first, I didn't like much Epting, who I knew just from a couple of Dreadstar issues, but he soon showed his future superstar potential, winning me over. OGS was clearly a plot driven event. It was supposed to shake up many of the books involved. Out with the old, in with the new, in the Avengers, with Cap, Thor and "boyscout" Quasar leaving in favor of an edgier team. Quasar left Earth, becoming more galactic in his job as Protector of the Universe. Thor had already been replaced by the Erick Masterson Thor, and both, he and Cap, who was taking care of his own story plots in his own book, seemed to be much more involved with Avengers business in their own books than in the Avengers mag. It also set up Wonder Man for a change of tone in his own series (a change which I desliked, mind you, prefering the lighter and more humorous tone of the earlier issues). Iron Man also used the OGS issues to worsen his own health issues, clearing the way for the War Machine storyline and also shaking a bit the status quo of the WCA. Like most of Marvel's books at the time. Harras and Epting's Avengers suffered with the excesses of 90's Marvel,such as the guns, leather jackets, bared teeth and belt pouches, in it's drive to become edgier and more in tune with the "Extreme" Image years. However, I think OGS was solid, well-paced, story-telling, with all-around great art, and it had lasting consequences for all the books involved (some more than others).
    The duo continued on to give us the Gatherers Saga, which is still one of my all-time favorite Avengers sagas. After it concluded, and Epting left, I do admit that Harras seemed to lose quite a bit his beat, and never quite recovered it, eventually giving the reins of the book to Kavanaugh, which was terrible. It was trhe Excess 90's without the good stuff, IMHO. After that, it would be a couple of years before Busiek and Perez came in to save us, and the book.
    Still, longwinded way of saying that OGS is still one of the top best Avengers stories in my book.

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    Can't agree with the assessment as "awful". It was one of the most tightly plotted crossovers ever - no filler - every issue served a purpose to propel the plot forward. Also it was Civil War before Civil War with the Avengers divided over the use of lethal force in a time of war and the bylaw that "Avengers don't kill"...an antiquated notion contrasting with the "Lets kill every Skull we can find" attitude of the Secret Invasion era.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nomads1 View Post
    Yeah, although I have almost all the Avengers Epic Collection (even when the have material that I have collected elsewhere), I skipped this one and stuck with the two vols I already had, after all, it was basically the same stuff. I wonder how they are gonna do the Crossing for the Epic Collection series. That one only fit an Omnibus (which I have).

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    Two Epic Collections ought to easily do it. This omni (looking at it now) doesn't have a ton of filler, but they could easily cut the 6 War Machine issues and not effect the story at all.

    Or, they may pull an "X-Cutioner's Song" -> X-Force and collect the crossover under the Iron Man Epic banner...?
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    an antiquated notion contrasting with the "Lets kill every Skull we can find" attitude of the Secret Invasion era.
    Including a hawkeye who kills a skrull thinking she was the real mockingbird who was helping them and 3D-man shooting a shrull who just saved all their lives because he was a skrull. (no other reason.)

    Meanwhile she-hulk has a skrull best friends, ff was with torches skrull ex wife during the battle and the uk heroes teamed up with a beatles skrull making the avengers look even more like jerks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thirteen View Post

    Such a fantastic line-up. I miss all these great characters. There was so much history, such potential, among them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nomads1 View Post
    Such a fantastic line-up. I miss all these great characters. There was so much history, such potential, among them.

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    The best part was Clint donning his Goliath persona again. It got him into space instead of being stuck on earth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dreaded Porcupine View Post
    The best part was Clint donning his Goliath persona again. It got him into space instead of being stuck on earth.
    There was also a cute callback to Avengers #181, where we see the lineup get chosen and little reaction boxes for each member, ending with Hawkeye going "WHAT?!" when he finds out he's been left out.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dreaded Porcupine View Post
    The best part was Clint donning his Goliath persona again. It got him into space instead of being stuck on earth.
    Never was a fan of the change into Goliath, but understandable due to the high-stakes involved.

    However, I still liked Hank's pep-talk to Clint before he shed the bow & arrows (T_T)

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    I don't recall blond hair and a love of magenta being a pre-requisite to call yourself Goliath, yet there it is, right on the printed page!
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