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[WallStreeter]

I think that's the point. Uranos will wreck Arakko's sh*t at first due to a mixture of raw strength and element of surprise, I have no doubt about that but eventually the tides will turn (perhaps a certain Regent says screw collateral damage and cuts loose) and he'll be a goner by the end of this event. So Giillen has a credible threat that doesn't have to linger around once his usefulness for the story is over.

Making him the perfect villain.

[Habis]

The Eternals won’t accept mutants so that wouldn’t work. They’d kill her anyway.

Not if Druig learns how Isca's power works. He wouldn't have qualms about sparing Isca's life so she can "win" by switching sides...

[Jackraow21]

So Hellfire Gala is July 13.
A.X.E. Judgment Day #1 is July 20.
And this issue, X-men Red #5, is August 3.

That’s gonna be an eventful four weeks of X-books!

[WallStreeter]

Not if Druig learns how Isca's power works. He wouldn't have qualms about sparing Isca's life so she can "win" by switching sides...

We know Druig won’t win and the mutants will.

Nor is Druig that good of a strategist.

[Habis]

We know Druig won’t win and the mutants will.

So what? Amenth lost in the end, but Isca still joined them at the beginning of the war because "victory was impossible for Arakko...".

Nor is Druig that good of a strategist.

He doesn't need to be a good strategist to accept Isca. So the invincible lady wants to switch sides? Okay, we let her join us and won't kill her so long as she fights on our side... You don't need to be a master strategist in order to do that...

[Baron of Faltine]

When Sersi was in the Avengers, she was at least Thor and Vision level.
Which isn't saying much cuz Jean and Rachel could probably beat Thor or Vision.

Etenrals power is insane. Consider that they are often compared to Kryptonians in term of power, with more elasticity in whatever can do with their powers and with much less limitation.
Consider this. Hyperion, at least in some incarnations, is his universe equivalent of an Eternal.
They ARE powerful. In the end is what make the difference between them and inhumans and mutants. They have much less variety in term of power, and they are for most part sterile or not very fertile(Deviants on the other hands are SUPER fertile having half blood kids with EVERYONE, Eternnals(Kro and Thena kids), inhumans(maelstrom...a character that should be used more imho) and many others...

[CoCoBandz]

Not if Druig learns how Isca's power works. He wouldn't have qualms about sparing Isca's life so she can "win" by switching sides...

That's only assuming that the Eternals are too much for Arakko to handle which obviously isn't the case.

Fighting Isca would be the end for them in the most unluckiest of ways.

[WallStreeter]

Etenrals power is insane. Consider that they are often compared to Kryptonians in term of power, with more elasticity in whatever can do with their powers and with much less limitation.
Consider this. Hyperion, at least in some incarnations, is his universe equivalent of an Eternal.
They ARE powerful. In the end is what make the difference between them and inhumans and mutants. They have much less variety in term of power, and they are for most part sterile or not very fertile(Deviants on the other hands are SUPER fertile having half blood kids with EVERYONE, Eternnals(Kro and Thena kids), inhumans(maelstrom...a character that should be used more imho) and many others...

Apocalypse beat Ikaris. Eternals are powerful, but not all powerful. Damaged Thanks was trying to hide from the Avengers when he was Prime Eternal.

[Baron of Faltine]

That's only assuming that the Eternals are too much for Arakko to handle which obviously isn't the case.

Fighting Isca would be the end for them in the most unluckiest of ways.

I think that if she and Then fight would end with Isca winning....taking perma crippling damage. Like the only way to win is taking damage...

[WallStreeter]

So what? Amenth lost in the end, but Isca still joined them at the beginning of the war because "victory was impossible for Arakko...".



He doesn't need to be a good strategist to accept Isca. So the invincible lady wants to switch sides? Okay, we let her join us and won't kill her so long as she fights on our side... You don't need to be a master strategist in order to do that...

Constantly repeating plots is just bad writing. Is a has switched sides, yes. Always having her do is boring, and not good writing

What can Isra’s powers do when it is impossible to switch is the story that has not been told, and I’m pretty sure Judgement Day will show that.

In an extreme case the Celestials decide Earth and Mars get blown
Up. If the Celestials decide that, there is no switching sides. Not all polenta permit it, and I don’t think Druig or Uranus are the ones too tolerate that king of switch sides, because side switching like that is about survival. Someone will do anything to survive has to betray against at some point.

[WallStreeter]

I think that if she and Then fight would end with Isca winning....taking perma crippling damage. Like the only way to win is taking damage...

She can’t permanently cripple Thena though. Thena has a huge array of powers. Isca is screwed.

[king of hybrids]

Speaking of Druig, in light of the implication that the Celestials specifically programmed his treacherous core personality to be ultimately self-sabotaging (eg his original betrayal of Uranos, unwittingly sabotaging the Mongols etc) his control of matters is going to very quickly collapse, especially if Moira and OS are whispering in his ear.

The problem is that the other Eternals are past the point of caring. They’ve been trapped in pre-programmed routines and habits of r a million years, it’s been 200k years since the last time there was a full reset of their memories; and now they now it was all pointless.

Their burned out to the point that most will accept anything if it means a change (hence following Thanos) and still have enough power between them to drag everyone else screaming into hell to get that change

[WallStreeter]

Speaking of Druig, in light of the implication that the Celestials specifically programmed his treacherous core personality to be ultimately self-sabotaging (eg his original betrayal of Uranos, unwittingly sabotaging the Mongols etc) his control of matters is going to very quickly collapse, especially if Moira and OS are whispering in his ear.

The problem is that the other Eternals are past the point of caring. They’ve been trapped in pre-programmed routines and habits of r a million years, it’s been 200k years since the last time there was a full reset of their memories; and now they now it was all pointless.

Their burned out to the point that most will accept anything if it means a change (hence following Thanos) and still have enough power between them to drag everyone else screaming into hell to get that change

Basically pure deviants have issues with excess deviation/mutation. The Celestials intended the future for the Deviants. Eternals are programmed to kill deviants with excess deviation to shake deviant evolution. The more genetically stable deviants interbred with humans, creasing the basis for the Xgene. Ájalo, high priestess of the Celestials, got this information from the Ghost of a dead celestial.

So the Eternals are facing a crisis of existence, which Druig wants to exploit in war against mutants.

[Vishop]

I think that's the point. Uranos will wreck Arakko's sh*t at first due to a mixture of raw strength and element of surprise, I have no doubt about that but eventually the tides will turn (perhaps a certain Regent says screw collateral damage and cuts loose) and he'll be a goner by the end of this event. So Giillen has a credible threat that doesn't have to linger around once his usefulness for the story is over.

How is that any different than Thanos who was also pinped out so that he doesn't linger around in this event? This argument sounds so ineffectual

[Vishop]

Making him the perfect villain.

Yeah perfect copy.