Supermn still up in the air. What's new?

[Jeffrey2]

You can like the casting, but it doesn't change how WB has been handling Superman (on film).

Yes, and IMO the drastic pivot in terms of the films was dropping the Bates Brainiac film. Denny O'Neil and others from DC wrote many Superboy eps. Presumably if the original plans had been followed there would have been a Superman film in the mid-90s written by great DC writers who loved and understood the character. WB made a huge mistake in taking the films away from creators who knew the character and turning it over to the suits who didn't know the character. All the suits wanted was to make Superman relatable in order to score big at the box office. Hence the emotionally conflicted hero which saw its ultimate manifestation in Cavill. Total angst with no appealing qualities. Even Snyder's cut gave us mopey Cavill again. The black suit only added to the that sense. Snyder supposedly wanted to have Superman happily embrace his place on Earth but that wasn't in the movie. At the very end Cavill finally smiles. Too little too late. Rumors of where Snyder had planned to take Superman (evil) in JL2 are somewhat confirmed by JL

BTW, the Bates script wasn't the only one. Other DC writers had their ideas as well. The first ever live action multiverse story was done by the Superboy team. Roads Not Taken. A two hour ep that is a classic. More than just a good Superman and an evil Superman, it included a third Superman who was jaded, had killed Luthor and given up on humanity. That story would have been perfect to adapt to film. It was Red Son done 10 years before Red Son came out in the books.

[Kirk Brent]

I'd say the idea of a faithful Superman film is far from being "up in the air." It's an idea that's been mired in the depths of cynical filmmaking and Batmania far too long.

[Vakanai]

Dean was great as Clark, Supes not so much. Teri was a very fine Lois. The series after the mid 3rd season went all campy, It lost its way and ratings plunged in season 4 because of that and it got axed. Overall, for 3 seasons L&C was good. However, the tradeoff was axing Superboy and losing the planned 5th and 6th seasons. I would have traded 4 seasons of L&C for 2 more seasons of Superboy.

To each their own - I grew up on those seasons of Lois and Clark and rather have kept them. Movies from tv shows don't interest me that much.

In a better world we could've just had both. Another WB mistake.

[skyvolt2000]

Dean was great as Clark, Supes not so much. Teri was a very fine Lois. The series after the mid 3rd season went all campy, It lost its way and ratings plunged in season 4 because of that and it got axed. Overall, for 3 seasons L&C was good. However, the tradeoff was axing Superboy and losing the planned 5th and 6th seasons. I would have traded 4 seasons of L&C for 2 more seasons of Superboy.

Actually a 5th season was in the works. While ratings were not as perfect as they wanted due to being moved and facing shows like Seasquest.

Some issues between ABC and Warner Brothers resulted in it getting axed by ABC and in retaliation Warner Brothers took a show from them and gave it to NBC. That show was Rosie O'Donnell talk show.

At that time ABC had a lot of mess going on that other networks benefitted from. Including WB & UPN network. Lets just say Moesha, Steve Harvey Show, Star Trek Voyager and Sliders would look real different (or not exist for the first two and Voyager-Tuvok, Paris & Kess would have different actors as would Rembrant on Sliders) if certain ABC shows were not axed despite some having decent ratings.
Along with Sister, Sister and Clueless moving from ABC as well.

[Jeffrey2]

To each their own - I grew up on those seasons of Lois and Clark and rather have kept them. Movies from tv shows don't interest me that much.

In a better world we could've just had both. Another WB mistake.

Truth is that actors apart from GC and the others would have been cast in say a Cary Bates written film. Or one of the other scripts percolating at the time. Many by great DC writers. They wrote a Red Son ep ten years before it was printed in the books. They also brought Metallo, Bizarro, Toyman and Mxyzptlk for the first time to live action. The creative team was there from which to bring about a great Superman film script. One that did not feature Lex as the next Superman film, SR, did. Heck the flying is so much better than in L&C because Superboy brought in folks who had done the flying scenes in the Reeve films. The big screen film would have been totally apart from Superboy and it may have well rocked.