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    Default Which Transformation In Dragonball Made the Greatest Impact?

    DB is notorious for the various transformations it introduced in it's long history. But which one do you think made the greatest impact? Left you speechless over all?
    Disclaimer: These are the transformations that took placein the anime ONLY and they are associated with Sayans. I excluding Ascended Super Sayans 1 and 2 and Super Sayans Ikari because Ι believe that they are sub forms of Super Sayan 1. I also exclude Super Sayan Blue Evolution for the same reason (sub form of SS-B).

    Oozaru: The very first transformation. When Goku, while having his tail attached to his body, is seeing the full Moon, he transforms into a gigantic ape like creature deprived from any kind of self awareness and logic. It was revealed that when Kid Goku first transformed into this state, he accitentally killed his adopted grandfather Gohan Sr.

    Super Sayan: Triggered by extreme anger after witnessing Krillin's graphic death by the hands of Frieza. Goku transformed into a spiked, blond haired entity with green eyes and surrounded by a golden aura. His speed and strength were completely rejuvanated.

    Super Sayan 2: Triggered also by extreme anger. When Gohan sawCell crashing N16's head, he changed from SS1 to SS2. Even more spiked hair leaving only a stripe of hair falling on his forhead and surrounded by the same golden aua only this time there were frequent electrical discharges.

    Super Sayan 3: First displayed by Goku to Mazin Boo but it was clear it was not the first time he underwent this transformation. It is not clear when precisely was the instant he first achieved this transformation but it is safe to say, it was some time during the 7 years between the end of the Cell Saga and the start of the Mazin Boo arc. Long golden hair and an ape like forehead, almost like the Hulk when he first appeared.

    Super Sayan 4: Exclusive to the GT timeline which is now considered by fans as a alternate continuity. In theory, it is regarded as the pinacle of the natural evolution of a pure blood Sayan that still has his tail. Completely different compared to the other Super Sayans as this form has black slightly long hair and a body coated with pinkish fair. Goku had yellow eyes while Vegeta blue. This form is so powerful that can restore de aging and generate unique clothing for each Sayan.

    Super Sayan god: Achieved by a special ceremony when 5 pure hearted Sayans join their Ki and give it to a particular indivisual of their choosing. Goku reached this state in order to fight Beerus. The user retains his original hair style but the colour of it as well as the pupils are now red. The user also posseses a much thinner body increasing his speed. Also described as god Ki.

    Super Sayan Blue: Described as a Super Sayan god that has reached his own Super Sayan state. Almost identical to Super Sayan 1 only that the hair and the surrounding aura now blue. Goku and Vegeta reached this state under the training of Whis and they first displayed it when a newly resurrected Frieza invanded Earth.



    Super Sayan Rose. Described as a god that posseses a Sayan body manages to reach the Super Sayan form of a Super Sayan god. It is also described as a form of mockery against the Sayans by Zamasu. Almost identical to Super Sayan 1 only the hair, the pupils and the aura are now light grimson colour. Zamasu while possesing an alternate timeline Goku's body managed to reach this state.

    Autonomous Ultra Instict (both Sign and Mastered): It is not yet clear if this is a technique or a new form. It is described by Whis as a state in which, the body can decide and proceed to it's own responses, completely cut off by the brain increasing it's responsing time by a great deal. This state, for the time being is seperated by two subforms: Sign, in which the user has almost perfect defensive reaction when he is assaulted. In this form, the hair is slightly gone up, he has grey eyes and he emmits a great heat from his body. Mastered: The user has silver hair, he still has grey eyes and the emmiting heat is so intense that even clothing cannοt withstand. In this state, the user has both almost perfect offensive and defensive abilities.
    Goku displayed this ability when he took a deflected Spirit Bomb from Jiren into his face while being in his Super Sayan Blue form.
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    I'm pretty sure it was the first time Goku became a Super Saiyan. That moment set the standard for shonen power ups.

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    I always loved the long haired look of SS Lv.3
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    The first Super Saiyan transformation was by far the most memorable and impactful by far. Everything after was just kind of a callback to that in a way.

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    Super Saiyan 4 gets my vote.

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    As we are on the subject on transformations what's the difference between ultra instinct omen ultra instinct sign and perfected ultra instinct? Also what's the new ultra instinct called?

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    Quote Originally Posted by choptop View Post
    As we are on the subject on transformations what's the difference between ultra instinct omen ultra instinct sign and perfected ultra instinct? Also what's the new ultra instinct called?
    Dunno what's going on in the manga right now, but Sign/Omen is just an incomplete UI, Goku has to think while attacking to use it, and the entire point of UI is to not think about attacking or defending.

    Anyways, the answer to this is SS1, Oozaru is technically the first transformation and is what really established that something is really weird about Goku, but it's SS1 that started the trend of power ups in DB, and influenced a lot of animes.

    SS2 is just a repeat of it with lightning effects and spikier hair, SS3 is just another transformation that made Goku strong, SS4 mixed SS with Oozaru but didn't leave much of an impact like the other two, same for any of the god forms.

    Ultra Instinct is probably the second most impactful form with this "Attack and dodge without thinking" idea, even if in practice it functions like every other transformation the franchise has, but hey, it did leave a big impact just by the idea alone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by choptop View Post
    As we are on the subject on transformations what's the difference between ultra instinct omen ultra instinct sign and perfected ultra instinct? Also what's the new ultra instinct called?
    In Sign, the user has almost perfect defensive abilities but he lucks greatly on the assault. In Mastered, the user has both perfect defense and offense against hs oppoment. In theory, he is the perfect fighting machine. In Goku's case, it appears to have a time restraint and it appears to be unpredictable at first until the Moro arc (in the manga) in which the ability can be summoned at will. But Goku, well being Goku and stuff, doesn't appear to take advantage of his new form due to his character and emotion control that appears to affect the effectiveness of MUI.
    Sadly, I haven't red the latest chapter so I can explain what this new level of UI is (if it is a new level at all) but from what I can understand, Goku appears to have better control on Sign rather on MUI.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lukmendes View Post
    SS2 is just a repeat of it with lightning effects and spikier hair, SS3 is just another transformation that made Goku strong, SS4 mixed SS with Oozaru but didn't leave much of an impact like the other two, same for any of the god forms.
    Let's not forget that SS3 can be a physical strain, which is why Vegeta skipped it & continued training/perfecting SS2.
    In other words, an enraged SS2 Vegeta (from DBS) could possibly be far superior to SS3


    Quote Originally Posted by choptop View Post
    Super Saiyan 4 gets my vote.
    Me too. I mean, SS1 achieved on Namek will always be the top choice among fandom.
    However, my personal favorite will always be SS4 (simply because I LOVE the colors, and SS4 Gogeta looks Awesome in this state):

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    Quote Originally Posted by K7P5V View Post
    Let's not forget that SS3 can be a physical strain, which is why Vegeta skipped it & continued training/perfecting SS2.
    In other words, an enraged SS2 Vegeta (from DBS) could possibly be far superior to SS3 =)
    From what I heard, what Vegeta used there was SS1, and the rage boost beefed him up that much.

    It's silly, but SS2 surpassing SS3 in power is also silly.

    The way the SS transformations were named before they started using was "Super Saiyan", SS2 was "Super Saiyan level beyond the original Super Saiyan", and SS3 was called "Level past the Super Saiyan level that is beyond the original Super Saiyan".

    It's a mouthful, and it really shows that "Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan" isn't the first time that DB used really long names, but the point is, the SS2 is just a stronger SS1, while SS3 is just a stronger SS2, they shouldn't be able to surpass each other, unless the previous form can somehow get the same power without drawbacks, but in that case, SS2 would be just as "worthless" of a transformation since, in theory, if SS2 can become strong enough to magically replace SS3 by getting the same power somehow, then SS2 could be replaced by SS1 as well.

    Anyways, here are scans in case y'all want to see the mouthful names:



    (DB#459)



    (DB#473)



    https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...40/unknown.png

    (DB#474)

    So yeah, numbers only started being used on the same chapter SS3 was introduced
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    Quote Originally Posted by choptop View Post
    As we are on the subject on transformations what's the difference between ultra instinct omen ultra instinct sign and perfected ultra instinct? Also what's the new ultra instinct called?
    It hasn't got a name yet. But Ultra Instinct requires the user to be tranquil in order to use it. Goku realised that he can't use that form to the maximum like Angels do because they are always calm. Saiyan's aren't as they are fuelled by emotions.

    The new version Goku is using allows him to use Ultra Instinct while tapping into his emotions. Which will be easier to maintain and has unlimited growth potential because there is no cap to a person's emotions - especially rage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lukmendes View Post
    From what I heard, what Vegeta used there was SS1, and the rage boost beefed him up that much.

    It's silly, but SS2 surpassing SS3 in power is also silly.

    The way the SS transformations were named before they started using was "Super Saiyan", SS2 was "Super Saiyan level beyond the original Super Saiyan", and SS3 was called "Level past the Super Saiyan level that is beyond the original Super Saiyan".

    It's a mouthful, and it really shows that "Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan" isn't the first time that DB used really long names, but the point is, the SS2 is just a stronger SS1, while SS3 is just a stronger SS2, they shouldn't be able to surpass each other, unless the previous form can somehow get the same power without drawbacks, but in that case, SS2 would be just as "worthless" of a transformation since, in theory, if SS2 can become strong enough to magically replace SS3 by getting the same power somehow, then SS2 could be replaced by SS1 as well.

    Anyways, here are scans in case y'all want to see the mouthful names:

    https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...92/unknown.png

    (DB#459)

    https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...32/unknown.png

    (DB#473)

    https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...42/unknown.png

    https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...40/unknown.png

    (DB#474)

    So yeah, numbers only started being used on the same chapter SS3 was introduced
    Thanks for response. Yeah! SS3 is clearly the more powerful form, but with drawbacks (as you mentioned).

    Just for the record, I'm only repeating what this poster explained about SS2 being the better option for Vegeta: https://qr.ae/pvPa7c

    Here’s the thing. Super Saiyan 3 is a useless straining form, in fact, some could argue that it is the worst Super Saiyan form in all of Dragon Ball due to its pure ki drain (although for me that position is Super Saiyan GRADE 3) you couldn’t list one reason it is a good transformation for Vegeta when he could use the less straining Super Saiyan God transformation instead which is superior in power. Additionally, there is to note that Vegeta sufficed in Super Saiyan 2 alone becoming so powerful training with it as an alternative to the straining form Super Saiyan 3 that he even became MORE POWERFUL when enraged than Goku in Super Saiyan 3 who should be superior to where he last left off in Dragon Ball Z.
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    The original SSJ transformation by Goku is the most iconic and the most memorable in the series. The SSJ3 tranformation was probably the coolest

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lukmendes View Post
    From what I heard, what Vegeta used there was SS1, and the rage boost beefed him up that much.

    It's silly, but SS2 surpassing SS3 in power is also silly.

    The way the SS transformations were named before they started using was "Super Saiyan", SS2 was "Super Saiyan level beyond the original Super Saiyan", and SS3 was called "Level past the Super Saiyan level that is beyond the original Super Saiyan".

    It's a mouthful, and it really shows that "Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan" isn't the first time that DB used really long names, but the point is, the SS2 is just a stronger SS1, while SS3 is just a stronger SS2, they shouldn't be able to surpass each other, unless the previous form can somehow get the same power without drawbacks, but in that case, SS2 would be just as "worthless" of a transformation since, in theory, if SS2 can become strong enough to magically replace SS3 by getting the same power somehow, then SS2 could be replaced by SS1 as well.

    Anyways, here are scans in case y'all want to see the mouthful names:



    (DB#459)



    (DB#473)



    https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...40/unknown.png

    (DB#474)

    So yeah, numbers only started being used on the same chapter SS3 was introduced
    It's heavily implied that SSJ3 is a form that requires a burdensome amount of power and was only sustainable in someone with a more durable body in the afterlife and that living Saiyans would find it too inefficient.

    SSJ2 is probably similar in concept but because it's not using the same amount of power, it's less of a strain.

    The whole point of SSJ God and SSJ Blue was that they were forms that didn't burden the body with excessive energy strain to maintain them.

    It's worth noting that when Goku goes SSJ 3 each time there is a problem. The first time it saps his time on Earth, the second time against Kid Boo he loses all of his energy and can't win the fight. Then depending on the continuity you want to use in GT his kid body can't maintain it, and in Super, Beerus just easily overcomes it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KNIGHT OF THE LAKE View Post
    It's heavily implied that SSJ3 is a form that requires a burdensome amount of power and was only sustainable in someone with a more durable body in the afterlife and that living Saiyans would find it too inefficient.

    SSJ2 is probably similar in concept but because it's not using the same amount of power, it's less of a strain.

    The whole point of SSJ God and SSJ Blue was that they were forms that didn't burden the body with excessive energy strain to maintain them.

    It's worth noting that when Goku goes SSJ 3 each time there is a problem. The first time it saps his time on Earth, the second time against Kid Boo he loses all of his energy and can't win the fight. Then depending on the continuity you want to use in GT his kid body can't maintain it, and in Super, Beerus just easily overcomes it.
    In the manga, during the 6th Universe Tournament, Whis revealed that Blue demands more stamina from the user in order to keep it and it is too much energy demanding. In fact, it was one of the reasons why Vegs lost to Hit.
    This is why both Goku and Vegeta kept using the Super Sayan god form as a back up in their fights.
    The problem seems to be solved to a degree with the Perfected Super Sayan Blue sub form that was introduced against Fused Zamasu.

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