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    Default How about : a permanent anti-gun DCU?

    Since DC is doing a lot of pride and minority characters in the name of social justice why not major continuity changing storylines that phase guns out of American society?

    The stories could involve Bruce Wayne, Oliver and other characters of influence lobbying and succeeding to change gun laws and THAT part of the constitution.

    They could run up against various forms of opposition, both legal and illegal.

    New and Old characters could show up. Eg Prez as a antigun crusader, supernatural stories involving the ghosts of those who wrote the constitution etc. A new Milestone hero who deals with gun crimes involving minority groups and uses non lethal weapons to fight crime etc.

    Your ideas and views on this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnthonyO'Brien View Post
    Since DC is doing a lot of pride and minority characters in the name of social justice why not major continuity changing storylines that phase guns out of American society?

    The stories could involve Bruce Wayne, Oliver and other characters of influence lobbying and succeeding to change gun laws and THAT part of the constitution.

    They could run up against various forms of opposition, both legal and illegal.

    New and Old characters could show up. Eg Prez as a antigun crusader, supernatural stories involving the ghosts of those who wrote the constitution etc. A new Milestone hero who deals with gun crimes involving minority groups and uses non lethal weapons to fight crime etc.

    Your ideas and views on this?
    I like the idea, but I can imagine the outrage from so called 'fans'.

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    I like guns. I don't see why DC would do anything like that. Especially Batman and Green Arrow repealing the 2A?

    I could see more discussions of guns and gun ownership popping up around the DCU being worthwhile. Batman is really the only DC superhero with a clear stance on the issue anyway.
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    I don't think superheroes should be influencing laws that impact people in the real world. But by all means, create fictional laws that superheroes deal with.

    Honestly, wouldn't mind if some superheroes took a harder stance on gun control. I feel like they have toned down Batman's 'anti-gun' stance too much while at the same time making him too violent in adaptations. Would love to see more panels of his destroying guns like he did in TDK Returns and some 90's comics or him actually taking away the firearm of a trigger happy cop who tried to shoot him to teach her a lesson. Have him mention than the guns on his vehicles aren't meant to be used on people (Bats' gear should be more like the Swat Kats anyway).

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    Lots of potential for stories here.

    Riddler could pull off some surprising antigun robberies of gun stores and manufacturers. He reveals that while he is no Saint he is not a monster who looks the other way while mass shootings continue...

    A Tom Taylor story about the success of Australian gun laws.

    Speeding bullets. Supes goes Superman IV on us gun laws

    The whole epic could be kicked off by bats encountering a child who has lost both parents to guns, only to discover other kids suffering the same fate that evening.

    Bart vs a mass shooter at his old school and the red state reaction afterwards. Jefferson pierce dealing with the shooting of ONE child. Deadshot, Deathstroke etc demoted to villain not antihero status
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    Quote Originally Posted by James Cameron View Post
    I like guns. I don't see why DC would do anything like that. Especially Batman and Green Arrow repealing the 2A?

    I could see more discussions of guns and gun ownership popping up around the DCU being worthwhile. Batman is really the only DC superhero with a clear stance on the issue anyway.
    You don't need to repeal the 2nd amendment to have sensible gun laws.
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    I imagine eventually a DC/Marvel will try to phase out their use of guns in their stories, or at least only have villains use guns, but we aren't there yet. The push for minority/pride stuff is front and center at the moment, and the anti-gun stuff is still hanging further in the background for some of the more liberal creators I think, but over time I imagine it will get pushed to the forefront. That is how these things go. I can see some creators eventually taking some stance where they say "I won't be showing any guns in my work as I feel it negatively contributes to the proliferation gun culture" or something. I just wouldn't be shocked by this.

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    The problem I have with anti gun stories in superhero coimcs is that similar arguments can be used to support superhero registration( something comics themselves tend to be against).So the characters end up looking like hypocrites.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thwhtGuardian View Post
    You don't need to repeal the 2nd amendment to have sensible gun laws.
    Obviously. I was directly referencing the OP.
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    Batman's already the biggest anti-gun hero around, and he's DC's biggest hero by far. His trauma is a constant reminder to us all without having to get preachy about it. Having DC heroes try to affect legislation is a bad idea in-universe and out, unless it were just one storyline with an endpoint in mind. Actually changing DC earth (or America) would do that thing the main Marvel or DC universes avoid, which is making the world too different than our own. If they got rid of guns, then how would the comics address real world gun violence after that? Having Batman constantly reinforce his anti-gun stance in a world filled with guns makes more sense.

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    Now I dont want to get into politics in this thread but I am no fan of guns. Not at all.

    Guns in comics though? I am ok with that.

    I dont see DC fading out the use of guns in their universe anytime soon but in like 10-20 years I can see it.

    Now with Batman or Green Arrow they could bring up anti gun movements and fight for change in Gotham and Star City or whatever. I would actually love to see that. Really piss some "fans" off.

    Look at it this way...over in the Marvel Universe The Punisher is one of my favorite characters. Always has been for 40 years. I own every appearance in a comic with the Punisher in it (except Spiderman #129, I will have it someday in mint condition). Now The Punisher uses guns and kills people. In very brutal ways. I love it. Why you may ask? Because this is comics. This is fantasy. Anything can happen (with certain restrictions). Now I would love to see Marvel use The Punisher to piss off some "real fans" LOL and have him stop a Capitol attack, or fight right wing nut jobs or go after nazis in todays society. But all this talk of the Punisher should happen over in Frank's thread not here. I was just using Frank Castle as an example.

    You stop using guns in DC what happens to Peacemaker?!
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    I’m pretty anti-gun in real life but I don’t want to see them banned in comics, movies, tv, etc.
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    I want jason to have his guns

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnthonyO'Brien View Post
    Since DC is doing a lot of pride and minority characters in the name of social justice why not major continuity changing storylines that phase guns out of American society?

    The stories could involve Bruce Wayne, Oliver and other characters of influence lobbying and succeeding to change gun laws and THAT part of the constitution.

    They could run up against various forms of opposition, both legal and illegal.

    New and Old characters could show up. Eg Prez as a antigun crusader, supernatural stories involving the ghosts of those who wrote the constitution etc. A new Milestone hero who deals with gun crimes involving minority groups and uses non lethal weapons to fight crime etc.

    Your ideas and views on this?
    What's the point? Didn't comics already try this with drugs? Did that work?
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    Quote Originally Posted by AnthonyO'Brien View Post
    Since DC is doing a lot of pride and minority characters in the name of social justice why not major continuity changing storylines that phase guns out of American society?

    The stories could involve Bruce Wayne, Oliver and other characters of influence lobbying and succeeding to change gun laws and THAT part of the constitution.

    They could run up against various forms of opposition, both legal and illegal.

    New and Old characters could show up. Eg Prez as a antigun crusader, supernatural stories involving the ghosts of those who wrote the constitution etc. A new Milestone hero who deals with gun crimes involving minority groups and uses non lethal weapons to fight crime etc.

    Your ideas and views on this?
    One of these is not like the others. What does guns have anything to do with the lgbt and minorities?

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