A.X.E.: JUDGMENT DAY #1 Review/Spoilers

[Cyclone_Ablaze]

I'm still fully onboard. I greatly enjoyed the first issue and I'm here for the wider implications of what it all means for the mutant world. It's not a story about those 6 mentioned, they're like leads in a play with supporting roles that swell when necessary. I love a scene-stealing king or queen.
It's like I mentioned in the other thread, I'm a fan of the X-Men first and foremost so if the writing works for me, I'm all in.

I'm just glad he didn't mention Logan.

LOL Y'know what....good Point. Especially, to the BOLD.

[Vishop]

I'm still fully onboard. I greatly enjoyed the first issue and I'm here for the wider implications of what it all means for the mutant world. It's not a story about those 6 mentioned, they're like leads in a play with supporting roles that swell when necessary. I love a scene-stealing king or queen.
It's like I mentioned in the other thread, I'm a fan of the X-Men first and foremost so if the writing works for me, I'm all in.

I'm just glad he didn't mention Logan.

Welp Logan already stole the thunder in House of X and X Lives. He also saved Hope in this issue otherwise we wouldnt be having this conversation

[Kitty&Piotr<3]

I'm still fully onboard. I greatly enjoyed the first issue and I'm here for the wider implications of what it all means for the mutant world. It's not a story about those 6 mentioned, they're like leads in a play with supporting roles that swell when necessary. I love a scene-stealing king or queen.
It's like I mentioned in the other thread, I'm a fan of the X-Men first and foremost so if the writing works for me, I'm all in.

I'm just glad he didn't mention Logan.

I thought he said Logan keeps sneaking his way in, or something to that effect?

As for Jean and Nightcrawler, I don't remember any events focusing on them recently. We'll see how this story goes.

[JB]

Welp Logan already stole the thunder in House of X and X Lives. He also saved Hope in this issue otherwise we wouldnt be having this conversation

It was an awesome scene, tracking Egg's blood and saving Hope just in time. And to think he's not one of the 6 mentioned.

[loke13]

It was an awesome scene, tracking Egg's blood and saving Hope just in time. And to think he's not one of the 6 mentioned.

Wolverine is an event all by himself.

[Jackraow21]

I thought he said Logan keeps sneaking his way in, or something to that effect?

He did. Said as he wrote the event Logan kept “SNIKT-ing” his way into the script more than he expected.

[Reigna]

I'm still fully onboard. I greatly enjoyed the first issue and I'm here for the wider implications of what it all means for the mutant world. It's not a story about those 6 mentioned, they're like leads in a play with supporting roles that swell when necessary. I love a scene-stealing king or queen.
It's like I mentioned in the other thread, I'm a fan of the X-Men first and foremost so if the writing works for me, I'm all in.

I'm just glad he didn't mention Logan.

Oh he mentioned logan, logan he says suprosed him how much space he took or something to that effect. I say let Logan br central I mean he is already unknowingly,going that route, so why fight it. Of the entire cast tho, the only interesting name thrown was exodus.

[Vishop]

I thought he said Logan keeps sneaking his way in, or something to that effect?

As for Jean and Nightcrawler, I don't remember any events focusing on them recently. We'll see how this story goes.

I like your av. Although I am not huge on Greg Land

[Ulysian_Thracs]

Oh he mentioned logan, logan he says suprosed him how much space he took or something to that effect. I say let Logan br central I mean he is already unknowingly,going that route, so why fight it. Of the entire cast tho, the only interesting name thrown was exodus.

Agree Exodus is the only one I'm interested, as well.

I mean, to ach their own. But it is so disheartening to me that we get glimpse of these great characters and then the same few people do the same thing over and over and over again. Are there any other pre-cogs besides Destiny who just might have their heads out of their asses to see this coming and warn everyone? Does anyone know karate besides the Wolverine clan they push down our throats in practically every single line? Can any of the other psychics get off their couches to face a threat besides jean? (Give the poor woman a well-deserved break already! They've been riding her like a donkey for the last 60 years. lol)

But when you create a world of over a thousand characters and the only use you make of 975 of them is 'Krakoa- population 200k', in my opinion you've failed as the author of what you yourself claim is an ensemble piece.

[JB]

Sometimes being the focus can also mean something major happening to them and they're taken off the board temporarily. The thing about characters like Exodus and Destiny is that they're more likely to have a heel turn or be taken out than say Kurt or Jean. I kinda like that unknown factor with them, and I too am looking forward to more exploration of Exodus.

[Kitty&Piotr<3]

I like your av. Although I am not huge on Greg Land

Thanks! He's great if you look at certain isolated panels from Endsong, but yeah, never, ever, ever look at a full Greg Land comic.

[Mercury]

Can any of the other psychics get off their couches to face a threat besides jean? (Give the poor woman a well-deserved break already! They've been riding her like a donkey for the last 60 years. lol)

Jean was out of commission for a combined twenty years—fifteen years if you count her time-displacement years—due to being dead. Later, Hickman regressed and sidelined her, save for a few impactful moments, and his treatment of her echoed throughout the rest of the franchise except for maybe Percy’s X-Force and Duggan’s Cable, both of which used her sparsely. It wasn't until Duggan began writing her in X-Men that she once again became more prominent, as she should be. However, he has been fair and measured in his use and development of her, which some fans feel is not enough.

Frankly, based solely on the above, not to mention Jean’s status as Xavier's first student, one of the founding members of the X-Men, and the central figure of arguably the most iconic and well-known storyline of the franchise, she merits and has recently paid her dues to receive the attention that an esteemed and accomplished writer like Gillen is willing to give her. It's also refreshing to hear that he is genuinely intrigued and creatively inspired by her rather using her because he is required to for whatever reason.

Lastly, I doubt Gillen has chosen to make Jean one of the main characters of this event solely because she's a psychic, though I'm sure he will highlight her abilities. Instead, It seems to me he wants to explore and perhaps develop her current thoughts, feelings, and motives, especially since, aside from a handful of key moments by Percy and Duggan, we've gotten very little insight into these facets of her charactet since the start of the Krakoan era.

[JB]

Chris Hassan just tweeted that there's still time to submit questions for the coming X-Men Monday.

X-Men Monday Call for Questions: Kieron Gillen for ‘A.X.E.: Judgment Day #1’
https://aiptcomics.com/2022/07/20/x-...-judgment-day/

[Ulysian_Thracs]

Jean was out of commission for a combined twenty years—fifteen years if you count her time-displacement years—due to being dead. Later, Hickman regressed and sidelined her, save for a few impactful moments, and his treatment of her echoed throughout the rest of the franchise except for maybe Percy’s X-Force and Duggan’s Cable, both of which used her sparsely. It wasn't until Duggan began writing her in X-Men that she once again became more prominent, as she should be. However, he has been fair and measured in his use and development of her, which some fans feel is not enough.

Frankly, based solely on the above, not to mention Jean’s status as Xavier's first student, one of the founding members of the X-Men, and the central figure of arguably the most iconic and well-known storyline of the franchise, she merits and has recently paid her dues to receive the attention that an esteemed and accomplished writer like Gillen is willing to give her. It's also refreshing to hear that he is genuinely intrigued and creatively inspired by her rather using her because he is required to for whatever reason.

Lastly, I doubt Gillen has chosen to make Jean one of the main characters of this event solely because she's a psychic, though I'm sure he will highlight her abilities. Instead, It seems to me he wants to explore and perhaps develop her current thoughts, feelings, and motives, especially since, aside from a handful of key moments by Percy and Duggan, we've gotten very little insight into these facets of her charactet since the start of the Krakoan era.

This wasn't meant to denigrate Jean, but rather to criticize what I consider lazy (and sometimes outright bad) writing, though I do believe that over the course of the X-Men run Jean has gotten a ton more attention than even most other O5 characters. IMO she is the most powerful and has had more of the best character arcs than just about anyone. I personally want to see more characters used, even if not my favorite little used characters use SOMEBODY's favorite little used characters for more than background penciling. There is a lot of psychic stuff to be done that doesn't require the best psychic on the planet. Right?

But my criticism was about the present, where I'm not opposed to her being a major part of any story, but I just don't find it compelling anymore to watch this cosmic level goddess-power beat up random mooks who couldn't survive a snap of her fingers. I just think there has to be a suspension of disbelief that she is being challenged by these scenarios anymore. Maybe that will change with this AXE, but probably not because you have to let Cyclops shoot something and Wolverine do his martial arts, and that means nerfing Jean to near uselessness.

I also respectfully disagree that they've been 'fair and measured in his use and development of her'. To the contrary, I don't think they've done very much to develop her at all. I would have loved to see her in Immortal as a counterweight to not just Mystique/Destiny and Frost, but also Chucky, rather than in the field doing the same old thing. I feel she is being portrayed more as Cyclops +1 than the singular power player she really should be.

[Metal Sphere]

This wasn't meant to denigrate Jean, but rather to criticize what I consider lazy (and sometimes outright bad) writing, though I do believe that over the course of the X-Men run Jean has gotten a ton more attention than even most other O5 characters. IMO she is the most powerful and has had more of the best character arcs than just about anyone. I personally want to see more characters used, even if not my favorite little used characters use SOMEBODY's favorite little used characters for more than background penciling. There is a lot of psychic stuff to be done that doesn't require the best psychic on the planet. Right?

But my criticism was about the present, where I'm not opposed to her being a major part of any story, but I just don't find it compelling anymore to watch this cosmic level goddess-power beat up random mooks who couldn't survive a snap of her fingers. I just think there has to be a suspension of disbelief that she is being challenged by these scenarios anymore. Maybe that will change with this AXE, but probably not because you have to let Cyclops shoot something and Wolverine do his martial arts, and that means nerfing Jean to near uselessness.

I also respectfully disagree that they've been 'fair and measured in his use and development of her'. To the contrary, I don't think they've done very much to develop her at all. I would have loved to see her in Immortal as a counterweight to not just Mystique/Destiny and Frost, but also Chucky, rather than in the field doing the same old thing. I feel she is being portrayed more as Cyclops +1 than the singular power player she really should be.

This is right on point. I think her lack of development is aggravating, and seeing scenes where instead of giving her viewpoint they instead have her defer to the nearest character makes it worse. And yes, Omega level TK and TP makes almost any conflict Jean gets into automatic Plot Induced Stupidity if she doesn't just render the opponent unconscious and bind them. And if they're not a living thing, just rip them apart at the subatomic level like she did to the transformed Terra Verde residents. I'd trade her omega status and TP/TK power levels for excellent character development and growth from here on out.