DCEU Superman thread/Henry Cavill is back as Superman

[Thor-Ul]

Personally wouldn’t mind seeing deepfake CGI Reeve as the father of Jon Kent in a Superman Secundus/super-sons HBO Max project

Hell…I wouldn’t mind a TV show centered on Reeve Superman adapting the rest of his rogues gallery(what Geoff Johns tried to do)

But Reeve deserves better than the DCEU, and the Henry deserves another chance with the cape

Hehe

I think we first need a SUperman movie with Cavill before bringing back Reeve.

[Last Son of Krypton]

It seems it'll be up to Gunn and Safran to make a new contract with Henry Cavill. They are currently mapping out the next 8/10 years of DC projects and I assume a 10-year long arc involving Superman.

"NO ONE knows what’s happening at DC Studios right now other than me & Peter. That would include writing up any new contracts for anyone at this point."
https://twitter.com/JamesGunn/status...99376384638976

Going forward, with few exceptions, it sounds the DCU will be connected across multiple media. The DCU Superman mythos could be expanded via live action or animated series (heck, even videogames!) with Cavill's Supes eventually popping up over there too.

James Gunn confirms the DCU will get the Star Wars treatment, lol:

@JamesGunn are you and your partner planning to give more DC character tv shows that’ll add to the story for the DCEU?

Yes, most definitely, the DCU will be connected across film and TV (and animation).

https://twitter.com/JamesGunn/status...21811374964736

Will there still be some standalone animation or live-action shows that take place in separate worlds (like Harley Quinn)?

Yes, some.

https://twitter.com/JamesGunn/status...24107165425665

You mean animated movies will be also canon to current / upcoming Dcu?

Yes, some.

https://twitter.com/JamesGunn/status...25651730108417

Will it be 3D or 2D animation?

Both.

https://twitter.com/JamesGunn/status...28478472855552

Are there plans for games to be connected to the DCU as well, Mr. Gunn?

Yes.

https://twitter.com/JamesGunn/status...28191888707584

[Last Son of Krypton]

It seems it'll be up to Gunn and Safran to make a new contract with Henry Cavill. They are currently mapping out the next 8/10 years of DC projects and I assume a 10-year long arc involving Superman.

James Gunn just posted a Kingdom Come related pic with the caption "Making plans": https://www.instagram.com/p/ClmKshmvYua/

[Vordan]

Definitely a tease. Funny how the “endgame” for Cavill might end up being the story that leans heavy on the “Superman as an angel/god” imagery even with Snyder out of the picture. Maybe they’ll bring Adams back for MoS2 but kill her off to help set KC up? Not exactly what I want but at this point this shared universe is a total wash and can never give me *my* Superman.

[Last Son of Krypton]

Definitely a tease. Funny how the “endgame” for Cavill might end up being the story that leans heavy on the “Superman as an angel/god” imagery even with Snyder out of the picture. Maybe they’ll bring Adams back for MoS2 but kill her off to help set KC up? Not exactly what I want but at this point this shared universe is a total wash and can never give me *my* Superman.

I don't expect movies being a faithful adaptation of the comics they take inspiration from. Look at the MC's Civil War.

But WBD could use Leto's Joker to kill off screen all the miscasted actors just to end up being killed himself by Magog or someone else.

[Vordan]

I don't expect movies being a faithful adaptation of the comics they take inspiration from. Look at the MC's Civil War.

But WBD could use Leto's Joker to kill off screen all the miscasted actors just to end up being killed himself by Magog or someone else.

Make it Manchester Black instead of Magog and I’d be onboard for that. Could even set up the conflict between the two with an actual solo Superman movie that has him and Black feuding, then we see the ultimate resolution of that fight in a KC movie.

[Last Son of Krypton]

Make it Manchester Black instead of Magog and I’d be onboard for that. Could even set up the conflict between the two with an actual solo Superman movie that has him and Black feuding, then we see the ultimate resolution of that fight in a KC movie.

Manchester Black would fit really well in place of Magog.

[Last Son of Krypton]

More annoying wait-and-see for Cavill (and the DCU as a whole):

A bunch of DCU movies had screenings this month. I'm going in order of release...

The past week, The Flash screened internally at WB (the last public screening was in July), the whole movie and the ending are the same with Batfleck and Keaton switching place, and a lost-in-the-multiverse Batfleck sending a message of help to Barry in the mid-credits scene. Cavill seems to have filmed a brief cameo for the film but apparently it's in the early section of the movie not in the ending scene, leaving still uncertain if he still Superman after Barry's "reset" of the timeline (I take it they are still waiting for Safran/Gunn to make such decision): https://twitter.com/thecomixkid/stat...47898692087808

Blue Beetle is at its 3rd test screenings I think. The runtime was reduced each time (it was past 2,5 hours in the early rough cut). The movie is set in the main DCU, currently there are no cameos but Superman, Supergirl and Batman are referenced. Jamie and the scarab can communicate with each others Venom-style? Susan Sarandon/Victoria Kord is Ted Kord's sister. It seems Ted Kord's status in not addressed in the cuts shown. I mean he can pop up in a post credits scene when the movie will be out, you never know till then. Movies in test screenings have no credits and post-credits scenes get left out till late by default.

The post-reshoots version of Aquaman 2 screened yesterday. Mera/Amber Heard is still in the movie: https://twitter.com/bigscreenleaks/s...65159364657153 There's no Batman anymore (both Affleck and Keaton were cut). William Dafoe was never in any cuts of the movie (pre and post reshoots), spoilers:

Vulko dies off-screens of a disease

end of spoilers. Nicole Kidman is in it. The silly humor is still in it too, lol: https://twitter.com/ViewerAnon/statu...01312146853888

[manwhohaseverything]

Manchester Black would fit really well in place of Magog.

As long as they don't go "There is a right and a wrong in the universe and the distinction should not be hard to make"

[Last Son of Krypton]

More about the ambiguity surrounding Cavill in the post-Flash universe (he got paid for a pointless cameo with no spoken lines, yay!):

"Regarding Cavill I’ll say this. The movie doesn’t answer his fate. The ‘full extent’ of changes in the new timeline is left ambiguous"
https://twitter.com/FlashFilmNews/st...71020900470784

"For the record, I've heard Cavill is in the movie very briefly but not in the final reboot timeline scene, and there's a meta crack from Barry referencing his absence.

Also heard the (apparently very funny) mid-credits scene with a drunken, confused Arthur being confused that Supergirl used to be Superman has been cut"
https://twitter.com/ViewerAnon/statu...53816583438336

[Vordan]

That scene was meant to establish that there's no Superman in the new DCU. If they cut it, and Blue Beetle keeps the references to Superman, then I think we can go back to assuming that Cavill is the guy once more. Only question I have is if Cavill shot a brief cameo or if VA is just referring to the archive footage they were always rumored to be using.

[Last Son of Krypton]

That scene was meant to establish that there's no Superman in the new DCU. If they cut it, and Blue Beetle keeps the references to Superman, then I think we can go back to assuming that Cavill is the guy once more. Only question I have is if Cavill shot a brief cameo or if VA is just referring to the archive footage they were always rumored to be using.

They still had Superman referenced post-Flash when that scene was in. It doesn't change much, it was ambiguous about Superman then, it is still ambiguous about Superman now without a "visual reference" of the actor at the end, and the audience left wondering what's up with Supes and to wait some more movies to find out. Make The Flash feels incomplete if it'll be released this way.

The archive footages from MoS on a TV screen is long gone, it was a placeholder to give the idea SM was busy saving the world. The actual scene is a newscast about Superman saving people from some disaster. I mentioned it this Summer in this thread.

[Vordan]

Yeah he was “referenced” as in:

Flash: Hey remember Superman?
Aquaman: Who the **** is Superman?
Flash: Supergirl used to be Superman back in the previous timeline
Aquaman: Well good for her

I’m not sure how much more clarity you needed on what the intent was short of Hamada walking on screen and holding up a sign at the camera that says “Cavill has been erased from the DCU, for all your Superman needs go check out the Abrams/Coates upcoming project!”

They were not bringing Cavill back, Hamada fought against his return, and they weren’t going to recast Superman either, it was just going to be Supergirl. This is different because now they’re not keeping the scene that makes it so people walking out will ask “did Superman get deleted?”. Instead they just don’t address it all and will leave it for Gunn/Safran and presumably Cavill to address what his status will be.

Is he actually in that scene? As in we see him on screen saving people? Because I can’t imagine Cavill would shoot a cameo if they planned on erasing him.

[Last Son of Krypton]

Yeah he was “referenced” as in:

Flash: Hey remember Superman?
Aquaman: Who the **** is Superman?
Flash: Supergirl used to be Superman back in the previous timeline
Aquaman: Well good for her

I’m not sure how much more clarity you needed on what the intent was short of Hamada walking on screen and holding up a sign at the camera that says “Cavill has been erased from the DCU, for all your Superman needs go check out the Abrams/Coates upcoming project!”

They were not bringing Cavill back, Hamada fought against his return, and they weren’t going to recast Superman either, it was just going to be Supergirl. This is different because now they’re not keeping the scene that makes it so people walking out will ask “did Superman get deleted?”. Instead they just don’t address it all and will leave it for Gunn/Safran and presumably Cavill to address what his status will be.

Is he actually in that scene? As in we see him on screen saving people? Because I can’t imagine Cavill would shoot a cameo if they planned on erasing him.

Aquaman didn't say who the **** is Superman. I don't get where you picked this dialogue from. Source?

And I meant Superman being already referenced in a post-Flash movie before Cavill came back.

Nope, Cavill wasn't in the newscast scene back then (July). I think it was to give the idea Superman was busy at the beginning when Batfleck asks help to deal with a group of terrorists in Gotham and Barry goes there.

I have no idea where Cavill is added now. There was that scene and the MoS' flashback from Barry's pov in the middle of the movie, if he got added to pre-existent scenes like happened for BA.

[DABellWrites]

Personally wouldn’t mind seeing deepfake CGI Reeve as the father of Jon Kent in a Superman Secundus/super-sons HBO Max project

Hell…I wouldn’t mind a TV show centered on Reeve Superman adapting the rest of his rogues gallery(what Geoff Johns tried to do)

But Reeve deserves better than the DCEU, and the Henry deserves another chance with the cape

Hehe

Actually, I would mind. I hate the idea of WB profiting off Reeve likeness in the movie after what they did to him. I hate when Disney does it too. The Princess Leia in Rise of the Skywalker is probably the most depressing and jarring thing I've seen in film. Depressing because we didn't get to see Luke and Leia actually interact while she was alive. Jarring because it was so Uncanny Valley. Just bring Routh back as Superman for Christopher Reeve.