DCEU Superman thread/Henry Cavill is back as Superman

[Vordan]

Yeah, but DCEU Superman killed Zod as last resort, and an already dead monster (Doomsday). He wouldn't go around killing the Intergang folks, ripping them apart, lol.

Well he did kill that one guy he smashed through a wall in BvS

[Last Son of Krypton]

Well he did kill that one guy he smashed through a wall in BvS

lmao. That's more Snyder being Snyder with his over the top action and destruction. Another director would've just make it looks like Supes pushed the guy far away without being so extra. Which I think it was Snyder's intention but not well executed.

[Jeffrey2]

WBD reportedly feels that Cavill is aging out of/too old for the Superman role. It seems the Bond producers feel the same as regards Bond. Cavill, Elba and Hardy's stars are fading as a younger 30s actor seems to be the goal. Presumably they want someone who will be in place for several decades and don't want another Craig who came on board at 38 and has chosen to leave at 52.

https://www.cinemablend.com/movies/n...potential-007s

If anything, a Superman actor should be even younger - 25/26/27 as Reeve, Routh and Cavill were when they first donned the cape.

[Last Son of Krypton]

You want to piss off posters in their late 30s or older over there, isn't it?

Btw, the other DCEU actors are close to Cavill's age or older. It's a non-issue. Superman can't be of Kara's age, a 20-something, if WBD sticks with the DCEU without rebooting.

[Jeffrey2]

You want to piss off posters in their late 30s or older over there, isn't it?

Btw, the other DCEU actors are close to Cavill's age or older. It's a non-issue. Superman can't be of Kara's age, a 20-something, if WBD sticks with the DCEU without rebooting.

If DCEU uses Superman, then it will depend on how they use him. If he is a "jobber" as Campea likes to describe WB's treatment of Superman (as in basically supporting the other characters) then an older actor is fine. If he is going to have more than just a supporting role, then a younger late 20s actor is needed. IMO.

[Last Son of Krypton]

If DCEU uses Superman, then it will depend on how they use him. If he is a "jobber" as Campea likes to describe WB's treatment of Superman (as in basically supporting the other characters) then an older actor is fine. If he is going to have more than just a supporting role, then a younger late 20s actor is needed. IMO.

Momoa is 43 and leading his own franchise. As I said age it's a non-issue if they aren't going to reboot and start from scratch with everybody being younger and inexperienced heroes.

The Superman played by Cavill is even older than the actor is. His Clark was 33 in 2013, he should be 42 right now. He is supposed to be a veteran superhero while the 20-something Supergirl, Batgirl and Blue Beetle are the new generation. The age gap works for the continuity they have right now.

[Jeffrey2]

lmao. That's more Snyder being Snyder with his over the top action and destruction. Another director would've just make it looks like Supes pushed the guy far away without being so extra. Which I think it was Snyder's intention but not well executed.

I'm not a Cavill fan but he got screwed by Snyder. The violence of MOS would have continued but more so in JL2 where Superman kills everybody but for Flash. Then more violence in JL3 where in the latter half of the film Superman is finally redeemed. Snyder wanted to bring Supes low to lift him up, but it would have ruined the character even more. JL3 would have come out in 2023 or 2024 so Cavill's Superman would have been held hostage till then by the arc and then maybe a few years after JL3 he gets a solo?! While, in the meantime, all the other JL members would have been on their 2 or 3rd solo films.

Cavill is no longer interested in the role per a number of reports, and this is why (even more than money) IMO. Screw me once as they say. On top of that he sees Affleck coming back and once again being the defacto lead, along with Gadot, of the DCEU. A new regime which is less hostile to Snyder and, who knows, may be open to Snyder. Zaslav seems to be continuing with the Snyderverse timeline. And the solo film Cavill wanted is not the type of film WBD will be doing (it appears) with WBD instead following the MCU model of soft team up films as well as outright team-ups.

[Last Son of Krypton]

I'm not a Cavill fan but he got screwed by Snyder. The violence of MOS would have continued but more so in JL2 where Superman kills everybody but for Flash. Then more violence in JL3 where in the latter half of the film Superman is finally redeemed. Snyder wanted to bring Supes low to lift him up, but it would have ruined the character even more. JL3 would have come out in 2023 or 2024 so Cavill's Superman would have been held hostage till then by the arc and then maybe a few years after JL3 he gets a solo?!

Originally JL 2 and 3 were supposed to be released back to back in 2019 and 2020. But yeah, I didn't like the original planned arc either.

Cavill is no longer interested in the role per a number of reports, and this is why (even more than money) IMO. Screw me once as they say. On top of that he sees Affleck coming back to the DCEU and once again being the defacto lead, along with Gadot, of the DCEU. A new regime which is less hostile to Snyder and, who knows, may be open to Snyder. Zaslav seems to be continuing with the Snyderverse timeline. And the solo film Cavill wanted is not the type of film WBD will be doing (it appears) with WBD instead following the MCU model of soft team up films as well as outright team-ups.

I think you are switching Affleck and Cavill, lol.

Cavill as always said to be open to play Superman, unlike Affleck who regrets to have played BM just to make happy his kids lol.

Affleck didn't seem interested in doing superhero movies, so far he only did some brief cameos to do a favor to directors and WB. He isn't spending much on set as BM, just few days and he leave. He is more focused on his dramas and being a director.

[DABellWrites]

WBD reportedly feels that Cavill is aging out of/too old for the Superman role. It seems the Bond producers feel the same as regards Bond. Cavill, Elba and Hardy's stars are fading as a younger 30s actor seems to be the goal. Presumably they want someone who will be in place for several decades and don't want another Craig who came on board at 38 and has chosen to leave at 52.

https://www.cinemablend.com/movies/n...potential-007s

If anything, a Superman actor should be even younger - 25/26/27 as Reeve, Routh and Cavill were when they first donned the cape.

https://screenrant.com/james-bond-mo...-ages-how-old/

Cavill age isn't that uncommon in James Bond. In fact, Daniel Craig was 38 when he got the role in 2006. So, are they looking for an actor to play the role for a long time or soft reboot James Bond? So they can get younger and more inexperienced Bond? This makes no sense whatsoever. Henry Cavill is in fantastic shape as well, so what's wrong with him?

[Jeffrey2]

Originally JL 2 and 3 were supposed to be released back to back in 2019 and 2020. But yeah, I didn't like the original planned arc either.



I think you are switching Affleck and Cavill, lol.

Cavill as always said to be open to play Superman, unlike Affleck who regrets to have played BM just to make happy his kids lol.

Affleck didn't seem interested in doing superhero movies, so far he only did some brief cameos to do a favor to directors and WB. He isn't spending much on set as BM, just few days and he leave. He is more focused on his dramas and being a director.

Affleck may be doing yet another favor. The scooper who first reported Affleck would be in Aquaman2 is now saying more Batfleck scenes will be added to the Flash. The third act. Supposedly Keaton will be filming as well so they're changing the ending. The scooper speculates that Keaton's Bat now goes to the non-DCEU universe that Batfleck originally was supposed to go to. Maybe setting up a potential Batman Beyond project using Keaton. Zaslav is going to put more money into the Flash. The new Batfleck scenes in both Aquaman 2 and the Flash are likely setting up the Batman solo and/or a JL film. He said Affleck wants to complete the original arc which included a Bats solo and JL2/JL3. Supposedly WBD wants this news out there to boost confidence in the Flash film. When in doubt Batfleck to the rescue.

[DABellWrites]

You and your scooper seem very keen on making Ben Affleck out to be this draw. Is he really that big of a draw?

[JAK]

Affleck may be doing yet another favor. The scooper who first reported Affleck would be in Aquaman2 is now saying more Batfleck scenes will be added to the Flash. The third act. Supposedly Keaton will be filming as well so they're changing the ending. The scooper speculates that Keaton's Bat now goes to the non-DCEU universe that Batfleck originally was supposed to go to. Maybe setting up a potential Batman Beyond project using Keaton. Zaslav is going to put more money into the Flash. The new Batfleck scenes in both Aquaman 2 and the Flash are likely setting up the Batman solo and/or a JL film. He said Affleck wants to complete the original arc which included a Bats solo and JL2/JL3. Supposedly WBD wants this news out there to boost confidence in the Flash film. When in doubt Batfleck to the rescue.

That last part is kinda hilarious, because JL2 and JL3 aren't going to happen, at least not as they were.

You and your scooper seem very keen on making Ben Affleck out to be this draw. Is he really that big of a draw?

He's certainly a draw, but he didn't save the Justice League movie. They might be putting word out to see what the reaction is, though.


Also, on age: Affleck is 49, and Ryan Reynolds is 45. So studios applying agism to Superman and James Bond is absolute stupidity and hypocrisy of the highest order. Superman was made "young and hip, fellow kids" in 2011 in the comics, and lasted all of 5 years. It certainly depends on the story, but the idea of "ageing out" in general is laughable. Someone should tell the studios that it's not the 1960's anymore.

[NaVi]

The only reason for a younger actor is a reboot, starting from 0, another reason wouldn't make sense. The truth is that I like Cavill as Superman, but he has a shitty story, it doesn't matter if you like the movies or hate them, they have divided the fans, that's the worst, with Cavill it would be very complicated, a lot of work, a lot of effort , in a Superman that will most likely end 50/50 for the fans. It starts from 0, it tells the origin of Superman, but the origin of truth, seeing a young Clark traveling the world, looking for himself and getting into trouble, at least to me, seems very funny.

[D.Z]

Snydercut verse and new Superman movie reboot universe.

[Jeffrey2]

That last part is kinda hilarious, because JL2 and JL3 aren't going to happen, at least not as they were.



He's certainly a draw, but he didn't save the Justice League movie. They might be putting word out to see what the reaction is, though.


Also, on age: Affleck is 49, and Ryan Reynolds is 45. So studios applying agism to Superman and James Bond is absolute stupidity and hypocrisy of the highest order. Superman was made "young and hip, fellow kids" in 2011 in the comics, and lasted all of 5 years. It certainly depends on the story, but the idea of "ageing out" in general is laughable. Someone should tell the studios that it's not the 1960's anymore.

Affleck wanting to complete his arc which included JL2/3 does not mean that JL2/3 will be based on Snyder's plans. Zaslav wants a JL so I should have referred to Zaslav's first and second JL films as JL1/JL2.

WBD is indeed putting word out about Batfleck and the reaction has been huge. Keep in mind that the Reeve's sequel has not been greenlit (though Joker 2 has) and supposedly the sequel is years away. Pattison will not be brought into the DCEU as Batman. WBD could easily have had him instead of Affleck film the new Flash and Aquaman scenes. WBD has no choice but to continue with Affleck as Batman. Imagine if a replacement actor was brought in! There would be a backlash among fans which could hurt the box of the Batman film that is coming. IMO given the situation re: DC films the top priority for Zaslav is to get a solo Batman film out first. Starring Affleck. That announcement will be the first that the new DC head makes IMO and that film will likely come out at Xmas 2024. That film will be the first DC film of the new regime.