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    Default Something I Noticed About JL VIllains

    Most of their human villains became less human and more grotesque as the title went on:

    -Dr Destiny: A normal human inventor with a human appearance, over time with his use of the gem and machine to invade dreams, he became to waste away and looked less and less human. He was wasted away to a skeletal appearance even before Gaiman worked him into Sandman. Even before Sandman he had those horror villain elements to him.

    -The Key: another normal human inventor using gagets and psychoactive chemicals. He was accidentally exposed to his own radiation by John Stewart which left him in a dwarf like state then he found out he only had a few years left to live which lead him to try to kill the JLA twice. The second time, Zatanna gave him part of her life force so he wasn't on the verge of death. Post Crisis, a revamped version of him returned where he looked more psychotic and inhuman looking.

    -Professor Ivo: Creator of Amazo and had a terrible phobia of death to the point where he didn't attend his own mother's funeral. He specialized in building androids and one adventure left him looking gross and mutated his face into half human/half animalistic appearance. He kidnapped several people including Black Canary in order to use them to make himself look human again (I forget the exact details but that was his goal). He is also the only one who successfully managed to kill JL members; he killed Vibe and Citizen Steel from JL Detroit effectively closing the book on the Detroit era and the final villain of JL vol 1. He was also completely out of touch with reality in that story arc.

    Conclusion: fighting the JL long term is bad for your health.

    I wonder if anyone else, writer or fan have picked up on this?

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    Don't forget about Killer Moth into Charaxes from Underworld Unleashed
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    Because evil needs to be scary looking. Yeah, really.

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    Quote Originally Posted by K7P5V View Post
    Don't forget about Killer Moth into Charaxes from Underworld Unleashed

    Yeesh! He really is buggy, isn't he, lol!
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    A few other JL villain also evolved over time although not all of them are human:


    Despero

    Shaggy Man/General

    Libra

    Wajinda
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    What about Queen Bee? Or was that just different takes on the same character? Or different characters?
    [Quote Originally Posted by Thor-El 10-15-2020 12:32 PM]

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    And what's the deal with all the O's?

    Starro
    Kanjar Ro
    Amazo
    Eclipso
    T.O. Morrow
    Despero
    Prof. Ivo
    The Maestro
    Anton Allegro

    Was there a sale at the 'O' store?

    PS I have a weird blind spot reading pun names. I didn't get the gag about "Amos Fortune" for many, many years.

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    I guess that's what we call escalation.

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    Yeah, I think it is just a "DC" thing.

    Sort of like how so many characters have "lad", "lass", "boy", "girl", "man" or "woman" in their name, which is way to many to list here!
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    Citizen Steel is Nate Heywood, who joined the JSA pre-Flashpoint. Hank Heywood III, who was a member of JLDetroit or the JLA, was known as just Steel. Yeah, I'm being that guy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by K7P5V View Post
    Don't forget about Killer Moth into Charaxes from Underworld Unleashed
    He is a Batman villain so he doesn't really count amongst the JLA villains. Also, the Charaxes was a one time thing for him.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Poison View Post
    A few other JL villain also evolved over time although not all of them are human:

    Despero

    Shaggy Man/General

    Libra

    Wajinda
    Yes, those are good examples as well.

    But who is Wajinda? I tried googling their name and got nothing.


    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenixx9 View Post
    What about Queen Bee? Or was that just different takes on the same character? Or different characters?
    Different take on the same character. Zazzala appeared as a villain in the 60's then appeared again in the late 90's/early 00's as a revamped version of an existing character.

    She doesn't count because she didn't become progressively less human after each encounter with the League.

    Quote Originally Posted by ducklord View Post
    And what's the deal with all the O's?

    Starro
    Kanjar Ro
    Amazo
    Eclipso
    T.O. Morrow
    Despero
    Prof. Ivo
    The Maestro
    Anton Allegro

    Was there a sale at the 'O' store?

    PS I have a weird blind spot reading pun names. I didn't get the gag about "Amos Fortune" for many, many years.
    Easier to remember?

    Quote Originally Posted by Timber Wolf-By-Night View Post
    Citizen Steel is Nate Heywood, who joined the JSA pre-Flashpoint. Hank Heywood III, who was a member of JLDetroit or the JLA, was known as just Steel. Yeah, I'm being that guy.
    I stand corrected. TBF, I was exposed to Nate before Hank.

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    Maybe Timber Wolf. He once became very wolf-like.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenixx9 View Post
    Maybe Timber Wolf. He once became very wolf-like.
    Isn't he a LoSH character? I don't recall a JL villain named Timber Wolf.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Venus View Post
    Isn't he a LoSH character? I don't recall a JL villain named Timber Wolf.
    Oops, lol! Yes, he is a LOSH member. Sorry!
    [Quote Originally Posted by Thor-El 10-15-2020 12:32 PM]

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Venus View Post
    He is a Batman villain so he doesn't really count amongst the JLA villains. Also, the Charaxes was a one time thing for him.

    Yes, those are good examples as well.

    But who is Wajinda? I tried googling their name and got nothing.

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    Maybe they were referring to Wandjina

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