Originally Posted by
Omega Alpha
Pretty hard to debate if you're deliberately lying or exaggerating, but here we go:
a) He was the one that suggested they add Wolverine and Spider-Man in the first place. That's a Columbus' Egg right there;
b) Luke Cage, Sentry, Spider-Woman were NOT getting movie deals at all. In fact, without Bendis' writing, there is no Marvel' Netflix at all, and still none of these characters are close to appear in a movie;
c) Also, Dr. Strange got a movie nearly 10 YEARS after his run, and he joined the team before the MCU even started. Back then, even an Avengers movie seemed like a pipe dream, and there were not even Thor and Cap. America movies confirmed (they only were, alongside Avengers, after the success of Iron Man);
d) You're also pretending not to know before coming to Avengers, Bendis wrote one of, if not the most celebrated DD run of all time (certainly the most acclaimed since Miller)- but yeah, he only added DD because of "traction", not because he wrote the character for 5 years to great success;
e) It's one thing to attract interest, other to keep it for 8 YEARS, including in books that don't have Spider-Man and Wolverine (hell considering the sales begun to decline after Siege, not even Bendis could do it for all that time). Again, Dark Avengers outsold NA when it was on, and Might Avengers had close enough numbers;
f) Even with all the hype and popularity for Endgame/Infinity War and the MCU, Avengers now is not remotely as popular as it was back in his (and Hickman's) day, even though all the characters in it are more popular than ever and worldwide icons. If a chimp could do it, perhaps Marvel should hire him, because the people writing Avengers in the last 7 years or so couldn't.
Again, it's hard to debate with people who deliberately exaggerate or lie, but here we go:
During his run, the Avengers fought: the entire US government, a Skrull Invasion, Ultron, Loki, Dr. Doom, Kang, Morgana Le Fey (granted, that was Norman's team, but still), etc, and that's just from the top of my head.
It also ended the idea the Avengers were a team of squares doing the government's bidding sitting in a mansion (might be unfair, but trust me, that's how they were seen; there's a reason the likes of X-men, Spider-Man, FF, Ghost Rider, had their rights sold, but not them, and sales reflected that). It also subverted the mythos by showing the team that was not untouchable, and not just from supervillains, but could from the government or even the population.
It also added a lot of characters that became fully a part of the team as much as anyone, Luke Cage and Spider-Man specially.
Yep.
I certainly didn't think I would ever be defending Bendis that much, because his run, even back in the day, clearly had many flaws, but the vitriol from some of the "back in my day, even nostalgia was so much better " is ridiculous.
Reminds me of Star Wars fanboys losing their minds with Rian Johnson because he dared try something different and move the franchise forward rather than get stuck in the same non-sense that has few appeal to the non-initiated, while they wanted more of the nostalgia fanwank, "it's all about Skywalkers" non-sense that JJ Abrahms offered. The result is that he was brought back in the 9th episode to deliver again, with a predictable disaster as result.