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I don't deny, Brady is the GOAT. But that doesn't mean Rodgers isn't a better QB. He objectively is. Just as Peyton was always a better regular season QB than Brady. But neither played as well in the post season.
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I would argue the very nature of football as the "ultimate team sport" also complicates things in ways that end up favoring Brady in the last few years where it might have hurt him in a comparison against Rodgers earlier in their careers.
You could easily argue that Brady got carried through his first dynasty and only had to be pretty good as opposed to great, a bit akin to Aikman and the 90's Cowboys. Then when he got his other Patriots Super Bowls, you could argue he was "paying" to win by taking team-friendly contracts to allow the Pats to stack up the defenses over and over. But I think his foresight to join the Bucs when he left New England emphasizes that his own talent evaluation and ability to meld and mold team chemistry in a sport as reliant on those things as football arguably proves him "smarter" than Rodgers in an area that *should* be quantified in discussions of being great QBS.
Rodgers has proven himself to be a drag on subpar rosters thanks to some of his attitude problems, while Brady has elevated subpar rosters with his intangibles.
...This is rot of why I'm fascinated by the idea of Rodgers going to Vegas, but also why I'm betting he doesn't go there; I think Rodgers and McDaniels would bring out the worst in each other.
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Teaming football’s number one egomaniac in Rodgers with a Darth Hoodie disciple (most of whom are stuck up assholes) in McDaniels would be a shit show on steroids. That’s why I’m of the opinion that if Aaron the Pissy Packer goes anywhere (though I’m not sure he will move), it’ll be to the Jets where his old Green Bay buddy, Nathaniel Hackett was recently hired as the new offensive coordinator.
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At the end of the day him being better doesnt matter much. What does he have to show for it?
I cant stand Rodgers but he is amazing. But does being better matter when the guy you are better then has more rings and records?
brady had great teams around him. I wont argue that. But Rodgers wasnt playing with scrubs a lot of years either.
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And that's why Brady was a better QB than Rodgers. Aaron the Pissy might be a better passer, but there's more to quarterbacking than throwing the football, and Rodgers is behind Brady in nearly everything but throwing metrics. In some cases, like leadership, exceedingly far behind.
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On athletic skills...yes Rodgers is better. He's gotten more athletic talent than Brady. Just like Murray , Jackson and Mahomes do. But Brady is the better overall QB.
His ability to process quickly , make fast reads and generally take lesser players to Championships show he was a better QB.
That's just the truth. Rodgers had more athletic skills but as Brady showed there is more than that.
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These are all worthy points being made.
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Rodgers is falling off a cliff.
Brady never did.
Brady's 3 seasons of football life (his 20s, 30s, & 40s) are all comparable to the greats in the GOAT discussion (Montana, Marino, Aikman).
The fact he was so consistently great for so many seasons is why he is the GOAT. Being first in 9 different playoff categories is just gravy.
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Rodgers was MVP the two previous years. This year, with a BROKEN THUMB!!! he passed for 3600, 26 TDs and 12 Ints.
Still in the top half of the League, with a broken thumb!!
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On NFL.Com during the week they had 2 articles about how the Chiefs and Eagles both rolled the dice on important moves and how they ended up in Super Bowl.
- For the Eagles it was the decision after a playoff exit where the backup QB wasn't good that GM Howie Roseman decided to draft Jalen Hurts in the 2nd rd. A fact many thought Roseman was crazy to spend such a high pick on Hurts when he had Carson Wentz then. But as the article detailed , Wentz imploded. Not able to handle the stress of a young QB who could push him. Even though that wasn't the plan then.
Wentz pretty much forced a trade for himself and is likely to be out of the league next season. While Hurts has really became a star QB.
- In Kansas City , GM Brett Veach had a tough decision. KC needed help on defense and limited salary cap space. Their top #1 WR Tyreek Hill suddenly upped his demand from an agreed on price to what he saw Adams get with Raiders.
Veach knew this deal would hurt Kansas City. So he decided to roll the dice and trade Tyreek Hill for draft picks and to sign some lesser free agents to fit roles. MVS , Shuster and others spent the off season working with Pat Mahomes. Who was entering a very ...make or break season. A fact he was changing his methods of a deep passing game to one where he could suddenly play chess on football food.
Mahomes showed how great he is by taking this squad to the Super Bowl. He also won a NFL MVP.
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My prediction for tonights game. Eagles win it in a close one. I think Maholmes has a good game but I think the Eagles have a better over all team. Though I worry about Hurt's injury I think in the end he will over come it.
But at the end of the day I wont be upset no matter who wins.
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