60 Years of Spider-Man At D23 Expo: Saturday September 10th

[Frontier]

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MCU Spider-Verse

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Teased during the Quantamania panel.

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Not again...

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[Rzerox21xx]

Wow, I'm impressed that C. B. Cebulski and the other guy dedicated a good amount of the panel on the wedding, showing pics of the Shea Stadium live wedding. They misnamed Willie Smith the fashion designer that designed Mary Jane wedding dress though.

[Huntsman Spider]

Wow, I'm impressed that C. B. Cebulski and the other guy dedicated a good amount of the panel on the wedding, showing pics of the Shea Stadium live wedding. They misnamed Willie Smith the fashion designer that designed Mary Jane wedding dress though.

That's a shame. You'd think they'd at least pay attention to that bit of detail. Otherwise, yeah, very impressive that they would acknowledge The Wedding, even though upper brass at Marvel seems hellbent on pretending it's the worst thing to ever happen to Spider-Man.

[primenumber101]

That's a shame. You'd think they'd at least pay attention to that bit of detail. Otherwise, yeah, very impressive that they would acknowledge The Wedding, even though upper brass at Marvel seems hellbent on pretending it's the worst thing to ever happen to Spider-Man.

Not to mention, the guy said the wedding was "HAPPIEST" time that peter parker ever had in comicbook history.

[Matt Rat]

I saw the panel, they go over OMD briefly also, calling it a 'lightning rod' and Cebulski bringing up the marriage debates that rage on to this day. He also called the marriage a long-lived concept where Peter was at his happiest, where as the 'other guy' tried being snarky and call it 'short lived'

"The other guy" was Nick Lowe btw.

Loved all the awkward moments where they clearly tried to get a rousing ovation for Slott when mentioning him and only got a meek golf clap from the audience. And then assuming Zeb was in the building and he wasn't.

It was an interesting panel, didn't announce anything new, but was a decent summary of milestone Spider-Man moments. However, other than OMD, they did not mention anything by JMS other than Romita Jr's involvement on the books in the 2000s.

[Matt Rat]

Panel was uploaded to Youtube

[Huntsman Spider]

Not to mention, the guy said the wedding was "HAPPIEST" time that peter parker ever had in comicbook history.

And therein lies the problem or the disconnect, the mentality on the part of Marvel execs and editorial that Peter Parker at his happiest will somehow be at his least motivated as Spider-Man.

I saw the panel, they go over OMD briefly also, calling it a 'lightning rod' and Cebulski bringing up the marriage debates that rage on to this day. He also called the marriage a long-lived concept where Peter was at his happiest, where as the 'other guy' tried being snarky and call it 'short lived'

"The other guy" was Nick Lowe btw.

Loved all the awkward moments where they clearly tried to get a rousing ovation for Slott when mentioning him and only got a meek golf clap from the audience. And then assuming Zeb was in the building and he wasn't.

It was an interesting panel, didn't announce anything new, but was a decent summary of milestone Spider-Man moments. However, other than OMD, they did not mention anything by JMS other than Romita Jr's involvement on the books in the 2000s.

Ha, yeah . . . Figures.

[Kaitou D. Kid]

They should have referenced JMS by name and mentioned more from his run, like Peter's teacher job or his role in Civil War.

JMS is, after all, the most influential Amazing Spider-Man writer of the 21st century, and arguably the second most influential 21st century Spider-Man writer overall (the first being Bendis). I mean, just off the top of my head:

1. Peter's job as a high school teacher is now his second most iconic job after photography - referenced several times in post-OMD comics, the Insomniac games, and recently by Feige as his favorite job that Peter had
2. JMS' revamp of Aunt May and Aunt May being in on his secret identity left an imprint everywhere
3. Morlun is the most successful new Spider-Man villain of the 21st century (Mr. Negative being second)
4. The Anansi connection and the Totem Stuff stuck around and influenced Spider-Verse
5. Peter befriending Iron Man before/during Civil War and getting the Iron Spider suit - completely different from how the MCU did it, sure, but JMS was still the influence there
6. Cap's "You Move" speech being from JMS' Amazing Spider-Man and not from the Civil War comic
7. The 9/11 issue is still Marvel's most memorable response to that

[Kevinroc]

Cebulski just gives his own personal opinion that Gwen Stacy was the love of Peter's life. Marvel needs to let that idea go. They have a highly marketable superhero named Gwen Stacy that they promote these days.

[Frontier]

Looks like Freshman Year Spidey is involved in the upcoming new addition to Avengers Campus:

[Kaitou D. Kid]

Cebulski just gives his own personal opinion that Gwen Stacy was the love of Peter's life. Marvel needs to let that idea go. They have a highly marketable superhero named Gwen Stacy that they promote these days.

It's also not something the public agrees with. The public, especially Millennials (whose first exposures to Spider-Man were TAS, Raimi, and Bendis), see MJ as the love of Peter's life.

Zoomers are maybe a bit different, since they grew up post-OMD and with Emma Stone's Gwen, but they can't be too different.

[Spider-Tiger]

That's a shame. You'd think they'd at least pay attention to that bit of detail. Otherwise, yeah, very impressive that they would acknowledge The Wedding, even though upper brass at Marvel seems hellbent on pretending it's the worst thing to ever happen to Spider-Man.

Marvel is releasing an oversized edition of The Wedding this year so maybe they no longer feel that strongly.

Cebulski just gives his own personal opinion that Gwen Stacy was the love of Peter's life. Marvel needs to let that idea go. They have a highly marketable superhero named Gwen Stacy that they promote these days.

I know people are free to like what they like, but... that's such a depressing and bleak interpretation of the Spider-Man mythos. This ain't Batman.

Also, half the time I can't tell if people really think that Gwen is 'the one' or they just don't think that MJ should be 'the one' and Gwen is the best runner up.

It's also not something the public agrees with. The public, especially Millennials (whose first exposures to Spider-Man were TAS, Raimi, and Bendis), see MJ as the love of Peter's life.

Zoomers are maybe a bit different, since they grew up post-OMD and with Emma Stone's Gwen, but they can't be too different.

I'm sure it's the same for younger generations who were exposed to the PS4 game, MCU, and ITSV (if not the Raimi films and reruns of the 90s show.)

Regardless, there will probably always be a portion of the fandom that prefer Gwen or Felicia over Mary Jane.

[Kevinroc]

Marvel is releasing an oversized edition of The Wedding this year so maybe they no longer feel that strongly.



I know people are free to like what they like, but... that's such a depressing and bleak interpretation of the Spider-Man mythos. This ain't Batman.

Also, half the time I can't tell if people really think that Gwen is 'the one' or they just don't think that MJ should be 'the one' and Gwen is the best runner up.



I'm sure it's the same for younger generations who were exposed to the PS4 games, MCU, and ITSV (if not the Raimi films and reruns of the 90s show.)

Regardless, there will probably always be a portion of the fandom that prefer Gwen or Felicia over Mary Jane.

I really think people who say they prefer Gwen actually do prefer the rather depressing and bleak interpretation that you're thinking of. It's not about Gwen herself. It's about what she represents. But that version of Gwen Stacy doesn't exist anymore. Not in the wake of Spider-Gwen becoming such a big deal in her own right. So people need to let that idea and what she represents go. The dead civilian love interest version of Gwen no longer exists. She isn't going to appear in a movie or show or video game or whatever again. When you see someone named Gwen Stacy in anything Spidey or Marvel, you're going to see a superhero.

[Webhead]

60 years of misunderstanding Spider-Man, more like!

[Huntsman Spider]

60 years of misunderstanding Spider-Man, more like!

More like 15 or 30, depending on how you felt about his 90s comics. 15, definitely, going by just about everything in and after One More Day.