Inside Out 2

[Zauriel]

Disney's animated films not only from the year 2023, but also from 2021 and 2022 flopped. Strange World, Raya and the Last Dragon and Lightyear all flopped, even though Lightyear was based on a popular franchise. Encanto barely made a substantial profit, if any at all. The last successful Disney animated film before the Covid pandemic until now was Frozen II that came out in 2019.

Aside from Inside Out 2 coming in June, Moana 2 was scheduled to be released in theaters this year. Sadly, this is another sequel instead of an original film that isn't tied to any source material.

[BeastieRunner]

Yeah a lot of Pixar movies like Soul, Luca, Onward, Turning Red, and the Good Dinosaur, all of which were original films without ties to another source material. But most of those except the Good Dinosaur came out during the Covid pandemic. So it is understandable they flopped.

Elio may be new, but It was already in production before both Wish and Elemental were out in theaters.

It made near the same as the last Spiderverse movie??

It hit a 5x multiplier?? First Pixar since a Toy Story to do that. And the 1st non-"Toy Story" Pixar film to that.

You're also listing 4 pandemic movies, so ... ??

It wasn't a flop by any metric, pre or post pandemic.

Elemental is one Pixar can hang their hat on as well as one Hell of a comeback story.

[mburns]

It made near the same as the last Spiderverse movie??

It hit a 5x multiplier?? First Pixar since a Toy Story to do that. And the 1st non-"Toy Story" Pixar film to that.

You're also listing 4 pandemic movies, so ... ??

It wasn't a flop by any metric, pre or post pandemic.

Elemental is one Pixar can hang their hat on as well as one Hell of a comeback story.

I don't know where you get your numbers from but Elemental only made $485 million on a $200 million budget with most of that coming overseas where Disney receives less of the box office. So at best it probably just broke even. Into the Spiderverse made nearly $700 million worldwide.

[BeastieRunner]

I don't know where you get your numbers from but Elemental only made $485 million on a $200 million budget with most of that coming overseas where Disney receives less of the box office. So at best it probably just broke even. Into the Spiderverse made nearly $700 million worldwide.

https://www.the-numbers.com/movie/El...3)#tab=summary

# Movie OW Multiplier
1 Toy Story 6.582x
2 Elemental 5.222x
3 A Bug's Life 4.895x
4 Finding Nemo 4.836x
5 Ratatouille 4.390x
6 Up 4.302x
7 Toy Story 2 4.284x
8 Coco 4.143x
9 Monsters, Inc. 4.089x
10 Cars 4.060x
11 Inside Out 3.941x
12 Toy Story 3 3.762x
13 The Incredibles 3.710x
14 Finding Dory 3.601x
15 Toy Story 4 3.590x
16 Brave 3.578x
17 WALL·E 3.548x
18 Incredibles 2 3.331x
19 Monsters University 3.257x
20 The Good Dinosaur 3.144x
21 Cars 2 2.895x
22 Cars 3 2.848x
23 Lightyear 2.339x
24 Onward 1.574x

And it made 2.4x it's budget, which is not break even. 1.2-1.3x is considered break even for animation. *Shrug*

[mburns]

https://www.the-numbers.com/movie/El...3)#tab=summary



And it made 2.4x it's budget, which is not break even. 1.2-1.3x is considered break even for animation. *Shrug*

Why would animation have a lower breakeven than live action? The box office breakout doesn't change from live action to animation.

[BeastieRunner]

Why would animation have a lower breakeven than live action? The box office breakout doesn't change from live action to animation.

Read the industry mags.

Less overhead, less salary, lower advert budgets for starters.

That's a good site I linked to learn the inside baseball stuff.

So is the boxoffice thread on Reddit.

[Wildling]

Count me in with being there if Elemental has a comeback story. If Anyone But You, being raunchier and live action, was a shot in the arm of rom-com movies, maybe Elemental can really come back.

[mburns]

Read the industry mags.

Less overhead, less salary, lower advert budgets for starters.

That's a good site I linked to learn the inside baseball stuff.

So is the boxoffice thread on Reddit.

That makes no sense. Less overhead, salary etc would just make the budget less it would not change the percentage of income needed to cover the budget. The budget is listed as $200 million on the site. The box office needs to generate $200 million to cover that amount and a box office of $485 million with most of it coming from overseas where the box office split is less than 50% for Disney would barely cover that amount.