Secret Invasion

[choptop]

Ha! They actually said "Super Skrull." And pretty on-point with them being the Skrull equivalent to a WMD.

Kind of got Nick and Contessa vibes with Nick and his wife in that diner scene, just the playfulness, her being one of his agents with a romantic streak in their relationship, etc. I wasn't expecting them to use the de-aging tech on another actor (that was the same actress, correct?). I like how Samuel Jackson was able to still inject a little more youthfulness to Fury in that scene. To think Nick Fury would cite proper procedure that prevents fraternization with a subordinate!

So Nick's been kind of a bad husband. It's one thing to be busy with work, that she understands since she was in the business, and it's not like it was his fault that she was left a widow and had to process that during the blip years...but then he basically comes back and then just abandons her to space. I mean, she's a Skrull, you couldn't just bring her up there with you? And then you insinuate she might be involved with Gravik (though it seems like she's more involved than she let on)? Fury's lucky she was as warm and affectionate as she was in this episode.

They still use flip phones? Though I guess those are convenient for spies.

I actually wonder how the current Earth's Mightiest Heroes would fare against Super Skrulls. I guess we haven't seen them fight so we don't really have a good baseline yet but I figure Spidey could probably take a few, maybe Ant-Man and Wasp at least one?

Moral of the episode: Do not mention Talos' daughter to mess with him.

They were all Skrulls, why not just assume their natural forms for that conversation?

"Help me Talos, I'm useless without you" - Well, that's one way to fix a friendship!

I guess Fury does owe quite a bit of his successes to Skrulls. I know the show isn't trying to portray it that all his successes were a result of Skrulls but in-between getting played by Gravik and everyone questioning his current effectiveness and capability in his old age, we haven't really gotten to see Nick get to strut his stuff. I guess they're just waiting for the eyepatch to come back.

I'm trying not to think about how easily WWIII could be started from just a simple order that even Britain's spymaster is powerless to stop.

What was the deal with the son? Like, was that the Skrull's actual son posing as the exact son of guy the Skrull was posing as? Because why else would a radicalized Skrull care about them threatening a kid that isn't his?

So a Skrull didn't just become Britain's PM, they actually replaced those world and influential leaders on the Skrull Council? So they were involved in this even before they actively threw in with Gravik?

It's really convenient that their memory transfer devices actively project the subject's memories for everyone to watch on a video screen. Even more convenient that the passcode is Bob's son, which seems like a big security risk.

Talos trying to restrain Skrull death but then shoots a Skrull in cold blood when he mentions his daughter. I guess Marvel protagonists can kill in cold blood again! Even if it just makes things worse!

Huh, so they really killed off Gaia like that, huh. I mean, plotwise I get it. There's only so much she could keep getting away with and Gravik was already on to her and this ups the personal stakes...though I'm genuinely surprised they kind of unceremoniously offed Emilia Clarke like that. Though of course only in death could we actually get to see her Skrull makeup. But I can't help but think this is yet another death of a female character meant to spur on the male protagonists like Maria's death.

So what do they do with the Skrulls onboard the sub? Just restrain them and bring them in for military tribunal or something, still assuming they're human?

Is a gun really worth putting in a safety deposit box? Unless it's more than just a gun.

Honestly I think it would've been more interesting if Rhodey wasn't a Skrull. Really takes away from that standout moment between him and Fury in the prior episode. Unless Rhodey was replaced afterwards.

Groot's limbs can kind of expand out like stretching.

It's not even in the same ballpark power wise it makes about as much sense as getting elasticity from Medusas hair power.

[Frontier]

It's not even in the same ballpark power wise it makes about as much sense as getting elasticity from Medusas hair power.

I can kind of see what they're going for going off of the trailers.

[Scott Taylor]

Yah the trailer makes it clear that the Groot part of a Super Skrull is the ability to grow long tendrils instantaneously. Its probably limited to that, partly due to budget but also due to the need to incorporate the other powers too.

I'd be surprised if a Super Skrull had all four powers combined. Seems much more likely that it would be one power per Skrull.

The gun is the biggest mystery in this episode for me. Is she going to kill Rhodey Skrull and rescue the real Rhodey, in time for him to War Machine up?

[j9ac9k]

Oddly enough, this is reminding me of "Peacemaker" with the Butterflies taking over people and we're in the middle part of the series where we're trying to figure out who is or isn't compromised and who is/isn't a good guy or a double agent, etc to explain their actions to this point. (can you imagine Fury, Talos, Olivia Coleman, etc opening this show with a dance sequence?) Also, so far that show did a better job with their "alien invasion" story, imo.

Rhodey as Skrull was too obvious, so is the twist that real Rhodey is somehow working with Gravik, who isn't really what he appears? Considering the 2000 dead in Moscow, I can't see how, but I do hope there'll be an actual surprise down the line. Otoh, Marvel tv shows really haven't been too complicated with their storytelling despite fans concocting all sorts of possible convoluted scenarios.

Honestly, I'd love it if 3-D Man (red/green costume and all) showed up, beating up on every Skrull he sees, just to throw a chaotic wrench into the story.

[Gaastra]

My sister watched the first two episodes yesterday. So didn't even make it through the full second episode. "too dark". "no fun" were words she used. She hated it! She and her kids won't be watching anymore of it.

Dang. That deadpool 2 joke is now more ironic. Keep in mind she is fine with dark hero movies but just didn't like this one at all it looks like.

[Frontier]

Oddly enough, this is reminding me of "Peacemaker" with the Butterflies taking over people and we're in the middle part of the series where we're trying to figure out who is or isn't compromised and who is/isn't a good guy or a double agent, etc to explain their actions to this point. (can you imagine Fury, Talos, Olivia Coleman, etc opening this show with a dance sequence?) Also, so far that show did a better job with their "alien invasion" story, imo.

Rhodey as Skrull was too obvious, so is the twist that real Rhodey is somehow working with Gravik, who isn't really what he appears? Considering the 2000 dead in Moscow, I can't see how, but I do hope there'll be an actual surprise down the line. Otoh, Marvel tv shows really haven't been too complicated with their storytelling despite fans concocting all sorts of possible convoluted scenarios.

Honestly, I'd love it if 3-D Man (red/green costume and all) showed up, beating up on every Skrull he sees, just to throw a chaotic wrench into the story.

At this point I'm wondering if Fury's wife will bite it next just because of the precedent with Maria and G'iah

I keep waiting for Union Jack to show up because of Falsworth. I mean, he wouldn't even cost that much! Britain's got to have Superheroes or costumed agents, right!?

[Scott Taylor]

Hmmm, we have three episodes left? Seems like Union Jack would be a stretch to fit in there. But maybe. I would certainly love to see either him or Brian or Betsy Braddock make an appearance in the series. It could even be just a cameo. The MCU is way past due to start keeping the British end up.

[Zero Hunter]

Man I am having a hard time keeping any interest in this show. Maybe it's because I hate the main villain so much and their motive is stupid. A million Skrulls are safe on Earth after being hunted all over the galaxy, and because they have not been able to find a home for them yet they are ready to exterminate all mankind and steal Earth for themselves? Screw the Skrulls at this point and just kill all the ungrateful bastards. They used to be sympathetic, but now we are seeing why the Kree want them dead. The way they have torn Nick Fury down in this show basically saying he would be nothing without the Skrulls help doesn't make the show any better either.

I will probably stick it out, but so far this show is the bottom of the barrel for me as far as Disney+ shows go.

[Ilan Preskovsky]

I'm enjoying this show a lot, though mainly for Jackson, Mendelsohn and Coleman - seriously what a cast!

But yeesh, the minute you start thinking about it, it really falls apart. Especially, as has been pointed out, the main villain's motivations making zero sense. And Kingsley Ben Adir may be very good at playing a truly smackable baddie, but just a bit of depth to Gravik would have been great. Yeah, the MCU and its bad guys...

[Frontier]

I'm starting to wonder now if the destruction of Skrullos was only partially the Kree's fault. It seems like the Skrulls are less the complete victims they've been portrayed so far or they have a streak of turning on other races.

[Reviresco]

Clearly, I'm missing bits. Need to sit down and watch this without distraction. But I did love the interaction between Fury and Talos in this one.

Also, I don't think someone is actually dead. At least, I hope not. Of course, I said that about the first episode too.

[Scott Taylor]

I'm enjoying this show a lot, though mainly for Jackson, Mendelsohn and Coleman - seriously what a cast!

But yeesh, the minute you start thinking about it, it really falls apart. Especially, as has been pointed out, the main villain's motivations making zero sense. And Kingsley Ben Adir may be very good at playing a truly smackable baddie, but just a bit of depth to Gravik would have been great. Yeah, the MCU and its bad guys...

I think Gravik is a bad guy because of his anger at not being able to shapeshift a decent human haircut.

[Frobisher]

Finding this very unengaging. A story about alien shapeshifters taking over should be thrilling - full of paranoia, betrayals and shock reversals - and yet we know exactly who the villains are and what they’re trying to do, and it’s kind of mundane. It’s like if you did a murder mystery where you see the crime at the start it wouldn’t work 99 times out of a hundred, and Nick Fury is no Columbo.

[wleakr]

I think Gravik is a bad guy because of his anger at not being able to shapeshift a decent human haircut.

Spoken like someone who has a completely different style of hair than the actor. Yep, we see you.

[80sbaby]

Doesn't Gravik just have a Caesar cut? What's wrong with that?