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If Reed can't understand magic, I don't feel too bad.[/QUOTE]
So is that why he can't cure Ben but Doom can since he used magic?
So is that why he can't cure Ben but Doom can since he used magic?[/QUOTE]
Ben was changed to his human form a couple of times. I remember at least twice that he could change his form fee, one time with the help of an alien-energy source the other time through a weird mix up of alchemy , magic and science. Like the hulks/banner cure that was all later undo to "that didn't happened"
Avengers #134 Apr 1975
"The Times That Bind!"
Continuing from last issue... Mantis, Thor, Iron Man and Hawkeye
continue to learn the early history of the Kree and Cotati races.
How the Cotati survived the genocide created by the Kree,
and that a pacifist sect of the Kree called the Priests of Pama were formed
and would eventually care for the now immobile Cotati.
Elsewhere the Vision continues to see the history of the Human Torch.
How a nuclear bomb explosion soon was bringing the Torch's life to an end,
and so after one last mission with his partner Toro,
went out to the desert where his flame finally burned out of control and his body was lost.
Back on Earth, Moondragon has arrived at Avengers Mansion, answering the Avengers summons of Captain Mar-Vell.
Upon her arrival she learns that the other Avengers were last seen in Viet Nam.
When trying to get the Scarlet Witch to help, the Witch instead attacks Moon Dragon
to a standstill before returning to her room to study magic further.
Back in time, Vision sees recent history where the Mad Thinker came across the body
of the Human Torch and repaired it and used it as a weapon against his foes the Fantastic Four,
putting the android Human Torch up against his successor, the young Johnny Storm.
A battle that eventually saw the defeat of the Mad Thinker and the Human Torch android,
which was left behind in the Thinkers lab and presumed dead.
While the other Avengers learn of the Priests exile from Hala,
and their discovery of the creature known as Star Stalker,
and how they used their knowledge on how to defeat the Stalker
to appeal to the Supreme Intelligence to allow them to travel the universe
and setup on planets likely to be targets of the Star Stalker,
using the time back on Hala to collect the Cotati of Hala and transplant them on different worlds.
After this final revelation is made the Avengers are returned to Viet Nam where they are
informed by Libra and the spectre of Swordsman that the coming of the Celestial Madonna is neigh.
Script by Steve Englehart. Art by Sal Buscema (layouts) and Joe Staton (finishes).
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I don’t read many Magic titles. See if this seems plausible. The forces, entities, and spirits that a Magic user is invoking have to take a liking or interest in the individual before they cooperate. Some guy might study for a life time but he bores the entities so he gets nowhere . Meanwhile they get a kick out of some shlub and make sure he finds a Magic whoozits or something that he can easily master.
Think of magic as a tree with many branches. Your delineation actually entails two separate branches.
Consider Invoking one such branch. That's where a practitioner calls upon a being/entity/force in order to directly tap into and employ some aspect of their power to achieve a magical feat. With invoking there need not be an expressed contract, nor does the being/entity/force necessarily need to be acquiescent or aware that you are invoking them. Some magical beings are so powerful that merely uttering their name will achieve a magical effect. (In most cases, though, the really powerful ones like Dormammu are very aware whenever they are being invoked.) In comics we see invoking all of the time, whether it's the Flames of the Faltine, or the Crimson Bands of Cyttorak. Invoking allows a practitioner to tap magics that scale far beyond his/her normal magical abilities. In some cases, invoking may even have the unintended side effect of further empowering the very entity that is being invoked. The true danger of invoking is two-fold. First, the invoker risks tapping into powers that they do not fully understand, resulting in unintended results. Think of a 2nd century cleric who attempts to light a candle by invoking the full powers of Sol (the sun god), not realizing that the sun doesn't just produce light and heat, but lethal radiation and intense gravimetric pressures. By the time he realizes what he's done, the entire monastery and half the countryside is burned toast and all of the citizens that weren't caught in the blast are mysteriously dropping dead from gamma radiation poisoning. The second danger is that the invoker could channel magics that are far too powerful for his/her mortal form and wherewithal to control. So not only does that 2nd century cleric nuke the village, but he immediately explodes into ash within nanoseconds of Sol's power entering his body -- unless he has protective magic to prevent it.
Another branch of the magic tree is Summoning. With summoning a magical practitioner is typically calling upon a being or entity from an alternate and/or adjacent state of reality to perform a magical feat at the practitioner's behest. This is rubbing the bottle for the genii to arise and grant you wishes, or making virgin sacrifices so that Beelzebub can appear in a cloud of fire and brimstone to do your wicked bidding. Sometimes with summoning there is a deal struck between the summoner and the summoned. The free will of both is exercised and the summoned can always refuse. Other times the summoner lords over the summoned with some type of controlling mechanism, e.g., a mystical trinket, or a counter-spell that compels the summoned entity to the summoner's cause. In every case it is not the summoner that is accomplishing the magical feat, but the summoned being his/her/itself. As with invoking, there are dangers to summoning magic. The most common danger is that the summoned being inevitably exacts a steep price for its services, one that the summoner almost never sees coming.
“True peace is not merely the absence of tension; it is the presence of justice.”
~Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.
“If I love you, I have to make you conscious of what you don’t see.”
~James Baldwin
Perhaps the answer to the question are Midi-chlorians?
Marvel now has a book called STRANGE ACADEMY that has young and inexperienced folks being taught by experienced magic users. So,once we get back to a regular monthly schedule,maybe you'll get more answers.
Anyone else remember when Beast -as part of the original X-Men who were brought into the present story-started learning magic?
Why can't everyone paint the Mona Lisa?
Why can't everyone master quantum physics?
Using magic should not be easy or safe. You should have to be born with at least some talent for it, and even then if you don't know what your doing it should be deadly to you.
And yet even the blind can "read" the Darkhold. Go figure.
“True peace is not merely the absence of tension; it is the presence of justice.”
~Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.
“If I love you, I have to make you conscious of what you don’t see.”
~James Baldwin
GHOST RIDER CONFIRMED For MCU!