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    Quote Originally Posted by andersonh1 View Post
    I don't understand using fiction to validate one's identity. I can't say that it has ever occurred to me to be happy that someone on screen or in a book "looks like me." I really don't care, and don't get why anyone would, because it's not real. A work of fiction ultimately doesn't matter, while real people do.
    Watch the reaction of these little girls and you may understand.

    https://deadline.com/2022/09/halle-b...235119436/amp/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Rat View Post
    She can do that without appropriation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tofali View Post
    I might be but the character's design still disproves that he is of African descent.
    It really doesn't, the character is dark skinned and although voiced by a light skinned Brazillian actor the accent was a mix of French, Portuguese and Spanish...which is common for creole peoples and islanders. But hey, if it makes you feel better, have at it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HollowSage View Post
    Watch the reaction of these little girls and you may understand.

    https://deadline.com/2022/09/halle-b...235119436/amp/
    I've seen those, and those are cute little girls, but that's the kind of reaction one grows out of as we learn to distinguish fiction from reality.

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    Holy hell these comments. "If you don't like it, then you must be racist!"

    What's wrong with people wanting the characters to resemble the source material?

    Instead of making rehash after rehash, why not create something original if you want a new type of hero?

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    Quote Originally Posted by andersonh1 View Post
    I've seen those, and those are cute little girls, but that's the kind of reaction one grows out of as we learn to distinguish fiction from reality.
    The problem you're having is you're arguing a strawman. Nobody's said that fictional representation matters MORE than real-life role models. Just that it DOES matter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Godzilla2099 View Post
    Holy hell these comments. "If you don't like it, then you must be racist!"

    What's wrong with people wanting the characters to resemble the source material?

    Instead of making rehash after rehash, why not create something original if you want a new type of hero?
    Because there is literally no other reason than racism if your issue is infact the actor's race.

    Now, as has been said multiple times now, if you just don't like the live action remakes based on your feelings from the prior films that's more than fine and no one is calling those kinds of comments racist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Godzilla2099 View Post
    Holy hell these comments. "If you don't like it, then you must be racist!"

    What's wrong with people wanting the characters to resemble the source material?

    Instead of making rehash after rehash, why not create something original if you want a new type of hero?
    Quote Originally Posted by thwhtGuardian View Post
    Because there is literally no other reason than racism if your issue is infact the actor's race.

    Now, as has been said multiple times now, if you just don't like the live action remakes based on your feelings from the prior films that's more than fine and no one is calling those kinds of comments racist.
    ThwhtGuardian has pretty much provided the answer.

    I don’t watch theee Disney live action remakes because they are not for me,

    But the people that have problems with Ariel’s race in this particular instance are racist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 80sbaby View Post
    The problem you're having is you're arguing a strawman. Nobody's said that fictional representation matters MORE than real-life role models. Just that it DOES matter.
    Exactly.

    People don’t understand how much representation affects them.

    The entire racist argument against Ariel’s live action casting just proves how much it matters to some white people. And if it matters to them, the why shouldn’t it matter for black people?

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    Quote Originally Posted by andersonh1 View Post
    I've seen those, and those are cute little girls, but that's the kind of reaction one grows out of as we learn to distinguish fiction from reality.
    How is it not reality? Those girls are seeing a real actress who looks like them. It doesn’t matter that she’s playing a fictional character. Halle Bailey the actress is just as inspiring to these girls as Serena Williams the tennis player. In both examples it shows them there are no limits to what they can dream of achieving.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 80sbaby View Post
    The problem you're having is you're arguing a strawman. Nobody's said that fictional representation matters MORE than real-life role models. Just that it DOES matter.
    To some people, sure. To some of us fiction simply does not validate us in any way, because it's not real.

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    Quote Originally Posted by andersonh1 View Post
    To some people, sure. To some of us fiction simply does not validate us in any way, because it's not real.
    Then you don't enjoy fiction?
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    Quote Originally Posted by andersonh1 View Post
    I don't understand using fiction to validate one's identity. I can't say that it has ever occurred to me to be happy that someone on screen or in a book "looks like me." I really don't care, and don't get why anyone would, because it's not real. A work of fiction ultimately doesn't matter, while real people do.
    Children learn from what they see in the media.

    For a long time all Disney princess and other Fairy Tales featured in media would focus on white characters, because of this the ideas of 'princess' became almost synonymous with white, so innocently sometime children would tell other kids they could not be a Princess or Prince etc because they were of the 'wrong' ethnicity.

    Imagination and fantasy are tools that kids use to navigate the world and can shape their self esteem, creating a culture where kids from a young age that view their ethnicity as 'wrong' or limiting is not healthy.

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    Ariel's claim to fame is her voice, mermaid tale, and red hair.

    I think they nailed all three ...
    "Always listen to the crazy scientist with a weird van or armful of blueprints and diagrams." -- Vibranium

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeastieRunner View Post
    Ariel's claim to fame is her voice, mermaid tale, and red hair.

    I think they nailed all three ...
    Looks like it to me too.
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