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    Quote Originally Posted by Dermie View Post
    I would assume BAD GUYS would still be in black and white since that was how it was designed -- it was an intentional style choice. I hope to see some new adventures of the Redemption Squad in colour, but I don't think it would really make a lot of sense to add colour into art that was designed and shaded to be black and white on purpose.
    It really wouldn't. It was drawn, inked, and toned for black and white.

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    How so?

    Seriously, what about the story demands it be told in black and white?

    It seemed at the time a cost-cutting measure.

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    I think I already prefer the art to The Quest than to the prior ongoing.

    Demona might hate it but Dominique Destine cuts quite the striking figure.

    Goliath being a public figure is going to take some getting used to, and Elisa is getting more attention than she bargained for and trying to manage not having a job while on suspension. Her and Goliath's relationship is now under scrutiny as well...and does she have cosplayers!?

    I wonder if the scene with the "kids" is going to build up to something.

    Sweet scene between Hudson and Nashville's egg.

    Will we ever see this Commitment Ceremony? Seems like they're planning to invite near everyone. I wonder if Coldstone is going bring it up to Demona at all...but they really don't have that kind of relationship.

    Oh hey, Vinnie! And Goliath finally learns his name!

    Not often someone has Thailog do something for them but I'm curious if Thailog and Demona's mutual plans will intersect and come together in this mini, even though the Manhattan Clan is mostly going to be dealing with Demona's plot.

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    Gargoyles Quest is off to a great start! It really feels less like a mini-series and more like Issue #13 with all the threads it picks up from Here in Manhattan, from Demona, Antoinette, and Coldstone continuing their plan, the consequences of Goliath's court hearing, Broadway and Angela's commitment ceremony, etc. I understand why comic companies relaunch comic series, but I really wish this was just a continuation from that.

    I feel like this issue did a great job balancing all the subplots and advancing them. Still, we also got some great character moments. The rivalry with Elisa and Antoinette is fun and it gives the latter more personality now that we know her true colors. Angela asking about Demona makes me wonder if the latter will find out (maybe via Coldstone?). The tribute of The Gathering was cute and I especially liked seeing Vinnie again. My favorite, though, is Hudson visiting the egg. It's a very touching scene, especially after reading Gargoyles: Dark Ages. It helps that it's very well-drawn and lit.

    This brings me to my next point: Pasquale Qualano does a great job so far in this series. I feel like he strikes a great balance between being grounded and stylizing the characters a bit. The colors by Giovanna la Pietra and Valeria Verdi also look great. It's probably my favorite art work in these comics yet. I especially like how Demona, Hudson, Broadway, Bronx, and even Owen look. Goliath and Thailog are a little funky, but that's all I can nitpick.

    Well, if I have other nitpicks: I felt like Elisa's dialogue with Antoinette felt a little too much like exposition-speak. Also, the "hug" gag with the Gathering crowd kind of overstayed its welcome, but that's really it.

    One final thought: I love that they threw in Thailog (and Brentwood and Shari) into the mix. I thought this would just be Demona and her crew vs. the Manhattan Clan, but this makes the conflict more interesting.

    Quote Originally Posted by Frontier View Post
    I wonder if the scene with the "kids" is going to build up to something.
    Lex and Gnash? I didn't think much of it, but Owen observing them is eerie. Glad that he shows off his stone hand, at least.
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    I'm glad it doesn't feel too separate from the previous issues and more like an issue #13, as you said, but our opinions differ otherwise.

    The art has some real problems. Bizarre perspectives for no reason. It's so disappointing. There are fantastic artists out there that would love to work on this book, and Dynamite seemingly refuses to cough up the cash to pay them to do the job. There's no good reason the book should have to look like this. Gargoyles' reputation was built, in part, on it's wonderful character designs and visual treatment. These comics do not do justice to that.

    I was really thrown by Goliath attending a Gargoyles convention in this first issue. Hasn't he only *just* appeared on television? Wouldn't the entire world still be freaked out by that? When would there have been time for a fandom to even find each other, much less attend an event? And why would Goliath step out publicly like that when it's obvious someone was going to try to do something violent?

    None of that made any sense. It we were a year out from his first TV appearance and he'd earned a ton of respect from New Yorkers, then okay, maybe. But he's a literal monster in the eyes of the world doing a meet n greet? In the mid-90s? I don't buy that.

    Great to see Demona again, though, and her dialogue rang true. Interesting to see Thailog again and I was really surprised to see Coldstone on her team at the end. What's his deal?

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    Goliath makes his first deal as a wealthy Gargoyle! Hope he survives the experience!

    I'm curious if Coldstone's betrayal is going to be exposed by the end of this mini because he's obviously barely maintaining civility and real loyalty to Goliath at this point.

    It's nice to see the Manhattan Clan interacting with more Gargoyles across the world and bring together more of the World Tour arc plots. Though I can imagine how sought after that amulet must be.

    Shari's multiple allegiances come to ahead here as she makes a play with Thailog against the White Council.

    It's nice to see Thailog overpowered but this is the type of series where that doesn't really amount to as much in terms of actually stopping the villains' plans.

    Demona making her move against the Manhattan Clan to get what she wants, with Toni piloting an army of Mecha drones in the process, while Thailog is stealing more artifacts for himself. Will the Manhattan Clan be able to turn any of this around? I guess first comes actually realizing what's happening.

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    Gargoyles Quest #2 is a good continuation to the first issue's story. Thailog's team (working with Demona for now) get their first win by stealing the Hand of Valmont from Prospero's vault. It was a pretty fun heist where she barely shows up until the end. Still, it's fun to learn more about Shahrizad/Shari and how she's been playing the Illuminati and their enemies, the White Council. Speaking of, of course we meet a Shakespeare character in Prospero, who seems like a chill old man. Monsieur Le Maire also shows up after being heard previously in Bad Guys. It's pretty surreal to see Jean Valjean in this continuity, especially after he uses his trademark super strength on Thailog.

    The Manhattan Clan meeting Jade and Turquesa was nice. I liked that they kept the amulet and I'll admit I even forgot a bit about it until now. It was kind of neat that Coldstone and Coldfire could speak to the two while everyone else went to stone sleep, though Coldstone was too on the nose about future betrayal.

    Once again, I'm into the art and colors. The characters (except Goliath, Thailog, and Vinnie, unfortunately) look fairly in-model and the new characters have some nice designs. Shahrazad was pretty adorable at times, which I wasn't expecting. It feels both darker and more colorful than before. If I had any complaints is that I wish it had been made a little more obvious that the cyclist helping Thailog and co. was Sevarius in disguise. I thought it was a rando for a moment.

    Demona vs. Owen seems like it'll be a fun encounter next issue. There's a strong focus on his stone hand. Will it play a role in using the Hand of Valmont?

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    Will the Manhattan Clan be able to turn any of this around? I guess first comes actually realizing what's happening.
    I really hope the clan is fully aware of Demona's plot by the next issue. But I actually have a theory that Quest will end with the clan being too little, too late in stopping Demona from uniting and using the Three New Keys, setting up a status quo for whatever the next arc is.
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    So we did a live podcast at CONvergence con on Friday, June 5th! Our guests were:

    * Thom Adcox (Voice of Lexington)
    * Brigitte Bako (Voice of Angela)
    * Zehra Fazal (Inspiration and voice of Shari)
    * Greg Weisman (Series Creator)

    And a little scoop was dropped for the next comic series:

    https://www.youtube.com/live/Qau5U2e...2mg60emw&t=582
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    What's the scoop?

    I skimmed the video but couldn't find it...

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    Quote Originally Posted by DisneyBoy View Post
    What's the scoop?

    I skimmed the video but couldn't find it...
    It's around the 47:00 mark.

    Essentially, Greg Weisman and Frank Paur are reuniting for an upcoming comic project after Quest, with Frank providing the general idea, pencils, and inks, and Greg scripting it. We'll probably learn more with the official announcement comes. I also hope that the next 12-issue run is still in the cards. Either way, we're getting more comics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GamerSlyRatchet View Post
    It's around the 47:00 mark.

    Essentially, Greg Weisman and Frank Paur are reuniting for an upcoming comic project after Quest, with Frank providing the general idea, pencils, and inks, and Greg scripting it. We'll probably learn more with the official announcement comes. I also hope that the next 12-issue run is still in the cards. Either way, we're getting more comics.
    That's good to hear .

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