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    No, they have never met. There has never been a time in comics where they have both existed at the same time. Bertinelli was invented after Wayne died; when the new 52 Wayne was introduced, Bertinelli was retconned to an identity that Wayne had used. After Wayne was shuffled off at the end of the Earth 2 story, a new Bertinelli was reintroduced in the pages of Grayson.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dataweaver View Post
    No, they have never met. There has never been a time in comics where they have both existed at the same time. Bertinelli was invented after Wayne died; when the new 52 Wayne was introduced, Bertinelli was retconned to an identity that Wayne had used. After Wayne was shuffled off at the end of the Earth 2 story, a new Bertinelli was reintroduced in the pages of Grayson.
    So Bertinelli appeared after and because of COIE to keep the name and kinda the character. The Flashpoint hubbub brought A Helena Wayne in who acted as Bertinelli (who was killed, IIRC) for pretty much her adventures. Helena Wayne vanishes and a new Bertinelli is introduced after Flashpoint in Grayson. Was this new Bertinelli a character who conceivably taken part in the original Bertinelli's adventures?

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    The pre-Flashpoint Bertinelli was never killed; she was erased; and all of her adventures were treated as if they were a cover story for Wayne; that is, the first issue of world's finest started with Helena revealing that she had been Wayne all along, and had been using Bertinelli as a cover ID. After Wayne went home to Earth 2, the new Bertinelli was introduced in the pages of Grayson as the new 52 version of that character. She has basically been treated as an extension of the pre-Flashpoint Bertinelli in recent comics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptCleghorn View Post
    . . . I guess our best option is to wait until JSA actually comes out and we see what the situation is . . .
    You expect comic book fans to be patient?

    My, how optimistic you are!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MajorHoy View Post
    You expect comic book fans to be patient?

    My, how optimistic you are!
    I think that is the best option. I withheld comment on our chances of taking it.
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