I'm skeptical why we needed an "event" that's this dull and utterly devoid of true suspense to accomplish the Avengers NOW roadmap as you accurately point out. New Cap, New Thor, Superior Stark, Extremis Hulk (and not to mention all those Spider-y things going on) -- I think all of these plotlines could've easily been accomplished without OS. Hickman was clearly moving in this direction already on Avengers/New Avengers. Remender has been laying out Axis since, when, Uncanny X-Force? There are far better plots in other books that could've given us the warped, slightly sinister Avengers NOW world you describe.
And as an aside, I wish Marvel would stop ruining the ending of their events by revealing months in advance what's going to happen, e.g., Bucky as Man on the Wall. (See also: obviously wasted cliffhanger in this week's Captain America.)
Did any of you guys read #0? The Watcher has been looking for millennia to find a single reality where his father's actions were the right ones - There's not one in the entire multi-verse. Nova notices this within a few panels - Utatu was a very depressed being. The fact that he basically wanted to die so took the opportunity to essentially kill himself shouldn't be all that surprising.
I think his joy came from the heroes which follow their convictions and solve impossible challenges. They became more less and less he also said to Henry McCoy that he despise him because what he has done (I think he called him hypocrite) . Nova and the Future Foundation were fresh and have no taint on them he liked those kids.
Nick Fury was properly on of the biggest so called hypocrites he did know that Nick is on the "we(I) vs them(the others)" trip was. He gave him the chance to overcome his inner hypocrite or be dammed with him. At the end he revealed a lot of information to the world by........ doing nothing.
In some way in this story Utatu is a hero
But I found the whole story ridiculous on every end, alone the amount of monsters or invading aliens xD
Somehow the whole story reminds me of https://twitter.com/Gali_girl Galactus daughter and how she eats every invading alien on earth.
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Funny you should have GL as your avatar, because this sounds to me like a riff on Hal Jordan's storyline in the old DCU.
GL goes insane, becomes Parallax. Parallax sees threat to Earth because the sun goes cold, reignites sun and dies, becomes The Spectre.
Except with Fury the whole "bad guy" plot was that he really wasn't bad at all but doing things no hero would even go for. Now he's the new Watcher.
I can get onboard with that idea
Very true, but the whole premise of the story was the watcher dieing\being killed and given that then suicide was a probably better choice death by random supervillain. I like him but I'm not sure waid would have even wanted write a "death of the watcher" story.
For all it's failings, it set off plots in a whole bunch of other series and unlike AoU most certainly did shake-up the status quo. I mean spinning out of this we have A Female Thor, Angela, The story of Daredevil's mother, The Fantastic four all over the place, Deadpool's daughter, Bucky with a new ongoing and a whole bunch of other changes. So on that level, it worked well as an event - the core story wasn't as good as it could have been, but it was self-contained so those who didn't like it could skip it and not miss anything - even the Hulk vs IronMan and Thor & Loki miniseries have been self-contained (both great IMO, the latter shows off Aaron's writing skills far better than the core series).
My point is that even if the execution wasn't point perfect, this was a reasonable event that actually had consequences as opposed to the dire abomination that some in this thread have painted it. My biggest complaint was that there were too many Avenger's issues sold as tie-ins, the first two were enough - why was the rest of the arc sold as a tie-in?
So how did Nick Fury killed the Watcher?
Cause unless he had the Ultimate Unwatchifier that Galactus gave him.... Nick Fury did not kill the Watcher.
Nick Fury and apparently everyone else have been running around seeing an illusion the Watcher created.
Yes, Original Sin certainly wasn't as heart wrenching as Civil War, or as block buster fighting as World War Hulk. That's true. But as a reviewer pointed out, it wasn't like any other Event that Marvel put out before, because it was something new. And yes, the Avengers NOW roadmap as you described was always going to happen despite OS and it's revelations, that's true too.
So from that perspective, OS was harking back to the beginnings of the Silver Age, which were deep set in the Monster Age, and by coincidence, so was Furys predecessor, McCord, in 1957. So you could say this was set in the 1957 genre era of Monster comics, and it wiped clean the remnant of what remained of Monsters from the modern Marvel Universe. It may mean that generic Monsters won't be addressed anymore and Bucky Barnes, Space Invader, will be the first of a generation that don't see monsters, just alien politics. If the New Invaders series survives, and Bucky's book augments it, then we will see a compliment to the Guardians of the Galaxy out there, with direct Earth human intervention, instead of being Aliens hiring humans, like Rich Rider and Star Lord.The Review: We should have known better. The Original Sin “event” series was originally billed as a mystery surrounding the question of “Who Shot the Watcher?” But we should have known that detective comics are more of a DC thing (quite literally, if you think about it), and remembered that Marvel/Timely’s origins has always been in monster and horror books. In that perspective, it makes total sense that this event has been in essence a suspense and horror title. Think about it. We have giant eyeballs being held aloft and, in the final issue, acting as if they’re alive. We have repeated stabbings and blood, obsession with death and secrets, some esoteric alien beings, and, ultimately, one of those “horrible irony” twisted endings for the main character.
It may be that Marvel is removing the WW11 characters from the Lines, as a sort of homage to those relics that survived from a bygone age, and gave them a righteous send off. (Not Steve Rogers or Bucky, because they survived to be relevant to the Modern Age, by reinventing themselves). I think Fury and Dugan couldn't reinvent themselves into anything else.
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I was greatly disappointed and feel like I want my money back.
I love the original Nick Fury, but this was not the Nick I know and love.
It seems like after it is all said and done the whole mini series was just a vehicle to give Bucky more powers.... Pathetic!
Okay, taking that logic that the Watcher failed to find a reality where Watchers intervention led to a positive outcome, what does that mean? It means the other Watchers were right and Uatus dad was wrong. Non-intervention Watching is the right thing to do. So, here we have a Watcher, who his whole life he has been breaking the law of the Watchers and intervening in the Earth. Ergo, Uatu coming to the conclusion intervention leads to disaster, then Uatu is the cause of the disaster that now faces the Earth? Is that what caused him to suicide? That Uatu realised the Earth has been ruined?
Now we have to come to the WHAT? What is ruined about the Earth-616? If the Watcher committed suicide, he must think everything he did to intervene on Earth was wrong and the Earth shouldn't be like this. All Uatu needed was therapy. There is nothing wrong with the Earth-616. If anything, he did the right thing by intervening. And if Marvel eventually show Uatu ruined the Earth--616, then maybe Uatu has a case to answer for.
This was the worst Marvel event mini series in a long time. The entire mini was a setup for 3 new monthlies. They could have easily launched those new series w/out trasking classic characters. I expect so much more from Jason Aaron!
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