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    Hey Nik, I've got another expat I'd like to do up a character sheet for. That be alright?
    Yeah, but if you... man, we're getting into weird analogy territory, like if you disintegrated Superman's arms he wouldn't be able to go "fool! Little did you know that my arms and I are one and can be remade from me!" and will his arms back into being from pure nothingness. - Pendaran

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cthulhu_of_R'lyeh View Post
    My playstyle will involve having Arx **** talk Kinu so she throws Arx at the baddies.

    Don't need Speed or Agility when you're getting yeeted by a meta.
    Valid point.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nik Hasta View Post
    Behold! The Average PC!

    Max HP: 228
    Core HP: 147

    Offensive Block
    STR: 39
    PRE: 29
    CHR: 26

    Defensive Block
    DUR: 34
    RES: 28
    AGI: 26

    Hit Block
    BRA: 29
    SPD: 29
    SKI: 43

    Energy Matrix
    ENR: 24
    ENR VALUE: 240
    Latent ENR: 81
    Mastered ENR: 159
    Stack: 3.18
    RAC: 2.16
    RUM: 3
    Movement: 88
    ATK Action(s): 1
    Tech Action(s): 1
    Range: 80

    Affinity and Techniques
    Free Slots: 8

    Body: 1 Honed, 1 Epic - 17.50% DMG Reduction
    Spirit: 1 Honed, 1 Epic - 20.00% DMG Reduction
    Mind: 1 Honed - 12.50% DMG Reduction

    Social Matrix
    Notice: 12
    Insight: 16
    Persuasion: 12
    Deception: 15
    Intimidation: 15
    Stealth: 14
    Computation: 12

    And yes, it is possible to build this in the system without breaking the rules of builds.
    Interesting!

    I bet every single player beats this character in a fight. With or without techniques.
    Why are we here?

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    "Why throw punches when you can be making everyone around you sterile mutant corpses?" - Pendaran, regarding Dr. Fate

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    Initial Stats now included (minus Techniques and Social Matrix). I'm sure it needs A LOT of work to be viable.
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    I see...bucketloads of Energy (and stacks!).

    Corruption Protocols
    Oooo, I love the sound of that. ^_^
    Why are we here?

    "Superboy Prime (the yelling guy if he needs clarification)..." - Postmania
    "...dropping an orca whale made of fire on your enemies is a pretty strong opening move." - Nik
    "Why throw punches when you can be making everyone around you sterile mutant corpses?" - Pendaran, regarding Dr. Fate

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sharpandpointies View Post
    Interesting!

    I bet every single player beats this character in a fight. With or without techniques.
    It also means Arx is smarter than the average.

    Brilliant.
    Yeah, but if you... man, we're getting into weird analogy territory, like if you disintegrated Superman's arms he wouldn't be able to go "fool! Little did you know that my arms and I are one and can be remade from me!" and will his arms back into being from pure nothingness. - Pendaran

    Arx Inosaan

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sharpandpointies View Post
    Most systems reward specialization rather than generalization. In a point-based system, especially, a generalist tends to be a character who gets beat up by everyone. Sure, they might last a little longer than some of the other characters against specific enemies who have specialized in ways that may better target those other characters. But lacking in an area that's 'strong', the generalist has difficulty 'forcing their opponent to fight on their terms'. The areas in which the opponent might be weak, the generalist tends to not be strong enough to capitalize on...and they don't have enough oomph to resist in the areas where the specialist is strong.
    I think that is absolutely true in most instances, looking at characters in isolation, but in a balanced party there is always room for a solid generalist.

    If you have characters 1, 2, 3 and 4, where 1 is a Stealthy Skill-Monkey and 2 is a Tank, 3 is DPS and 4 is a Generalist, you can always use the 4 as a support to any of the others, situationally. They're your 2nd Skill-Monkey, 2nd DPS and 2nd Tank.

    Just don't leave them on their own.

    Unless there happens to be a 1-person task that requires a bit of everything.

    But generally, I think there's definitely a place for them in a team-up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beadle View Post
    I think that is absolutely true in most instances, looking at characters in isolation, but in a balanced party there is always room for a solid generalist.

    If you have characters 1, 2, 3 and 4, where 1 is a Stealthy Skill-Monkey and 2 is a Tank, 3 is DPS and 4 is a Generalist, you can always use the 4 as a support to any of the others, situationally. They're your 2nd Skill-Monkey, 2nd DPS and 2nd Tank.

    Just don't leave them on their own.

    Unless there happens to be a 1-person task that requires a bit of everything.

    But generally, I think there's definitely a place for them in a team-up.
    Oh, no question. I will not argue with that assessment at all. If one has a bunch of specialists, having a generalist along isn't a bad thing. Lord knows I've played some 'entering into generalist' area characters myself. ^_^

    As you say, in isolation.

    And no, leaving them by themselves - even in the middle of a fight, where people are pairing off - not a good plan.
    Why are we here?

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    "...dropping an orca whale made of fire on your enemies is a pretty strong opening move." - Nik
    "Why throw punches when you can be making everyone around you sterile mutant corpses?" - Pendaran, regarding Dr. Fate

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    Then again, I'm less a 'everyone find an opponent and pair off against that person' kind of fighter and more of a 'how can my team leverage their abilities as a group to utterly destroy one or two of the enemies at the outset, leaving the fight lopsided (if at all possible)' kind of person. So I don't feel any generalist would be in trouble.

    ^_^

    I used to appall people in my martial arts schools with my thoughts on 'dealing with a real problem'. My answer was usually 'if I absolutely can't get away, is it possible to run the problem over with my car?'
    Why are we here?

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    "...dropping an orca whale made of fire on your enemies is a pretty strong opening move." - Nik
    "Why throw punches when you can be making everyone around you sterile mutant corpses?" - Pendaran, regarding Dr. Fate

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cthulhu_of_R'lyeh View Post
    Hey Nik, I've got another expat I'd like to do up a character sheet for. That be alright?
    Erm... I'm fine with you making a character sheet for fun.

    I'm not having players have multiple playable characters, just want to be clear on that.

    If you want me to take this character work them into the setting somewhere then I am happy to do that as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nik Hasta View Post
    Erm... I'm fine with you making a character sheet for fun.

    I'm not having players have multiple playable characters, just want to be clear on that.

    If you want me to take this character work them into the setting somewhere then I am happy to do that as well.
    Oh I've no intention of playing too. Way too big a headache, just wanna do the sheet up for fun ^_^
    Yeah, but if you... man, we're getting into weird analogy territory, like if you disintegrated Superman's arms he wouldn't be able to go "fool! Little did you know that my arms and I are one and can be remade from me!" and will his arms back into being from pure nothingness. - Pendaran

    Arx Inosaan

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beadle View Post
    Initial Stats now included (minus Techniques and Social Matrix). I'm sure it needs A LOT of work to be viable.
    Checking your maths, while your syncs are all correct and even your Affinity Resistance, you've got an extra 30 XP allocated more than you should.

    You'll need to adjust something to get under 150 XP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cthulhu_of_R'lyeh View Post
    Oh I've no intention of playing too. Way too big a headache, just wanna do the sheet up for fun ^_^
    Then by all means continue! If you want them folded into the setting to show up and do stuff, let me know.

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    I think I thought of drawing someone up for fun at one point as well. Maybe I'll do that.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nik Hasta View Post
    Behold! The Average PC!

    Max HP: 228
    Core HP: 147

    Offensive Block
    STR: 39
    PRE: 29
    CHR: 26

    Defensive Block
    DUR: 34
    RES: 28
    AGI: 26

    Hit Block
    BRA: 29
    SPD: 29
    SKI: 43

    Energy Matrix
    ENR: 24
    ENR VALUE: 240
    Latent ENR: 81
    Mastered ENR: 159
    Stack: 3.18
    RAC: 2.16
    RUM: 3
    Movement: 88
    ATK Action(s): 1
    Tech Action(s): 1
    Range: 80

    Affinity and Techniques
    Free Slots: 8

    Body: 1 Honed, 1 Epic - 17.50% DMG Reduction
    Spirit: 1 Honed, 1 Epic - 20.00% DMG Reduction
    Mind: 1 Honed - 12.50% DMG Reduction

    Social Matrix
    Notice: 12
    Insight: 16
    Persuasion: 12
    Deception: 15
    Intimidation: 15
    Stealth: 14
    Computation: 12

    And yes, it is possible to build this in the system without breaking the rules of builds.
    That is indeed middle of the road in multiple ways
    “The master has failed more times than the beginner has even tried.”
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nik Hasta View Post
    Checking your maths, while your syncs are all correct and even your Affinity Resistance, you've got an extra 30 XP allocated more than you should.

    You'll need to adjust something to get under 150 XP.
    Ah, crap. I miscounted the number of 30s.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beadle View Post
    Ah, crap. I miscounted the number of 30s.
    That 1/20 chance already hitting
    Yeah, but if you... man, we're getting into weird analogy territory, like if you disintegrated Superman's arms he wouldn't be able to go "fool! Little did you know that my arms and I are one and can be remade from me!" and will his arms back into being from pure nothingness. - Pendaran

    Arx Inosaan

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