What's up with comics Nick Fury?

[Ultimate Captain America]

Well, that's the whole reason they created a "Nick Fury Jr" to begin with, to have Ultimate Nick Fury in the main universe, or the closest thing to it.

[4theEarth]

Question 1: the black Nick Fury.

Two decades ago, Marvel reinvented most of its characters in the Ultimate Marvel universe. Nick Fury was reimagined in "The Ultimates", with the likeness of Samuel Jackson. It was one of the best received reimaginations, even 616-Fury used it as a "disguise" a time he was undercover. Then the real-life Samuel Jackson played the part in the MCU films, and now that's the default aspect of Nick Fury for audiences everywhere. Even animated series and videogames use it if they include him. We still had the problem that Ultimate Marvel was an alternate universe, so they created "Nick Fury Jr." to have him around. And to avoid having two, they retired the original one (more about it later). Ultimate Marvel ended during Secret Wars, but Ultimate Nick was not rescued from it like Miles Morales and the Maker because 616 already had him, in a way. So, that's the guy.

SHIELD was closed after Secret Empire, and then we did not see very often. There's little to do with a guy defined by SHIELD if SHIELD is out of the picture. He has been in an Iron Man annual, Daughters of the Dragon, Invisible Woman, Fantastic Four, Black Cat, and a dispute with Nighthawk in a comic whose name I forgot.

Question 2: the white Nick Fury.

The original one had a long life because he used the "infinite formula" or something like that (super soldier serum under another name), but it was running out. For reasons I forgot (the plot was a bit convoluted) he killed Uatu the Watcher, and the other Watchers sentenced him to be "The Unseen". Basically, a Watcher himself, chained to the Moon. In some times he did the Uatu thing of "I see everything but can not interfere".

When Empyre ended (a between humans, Kree and Skrulls against the Cotati) he took a pair of Cotati weapons, to study them, and Uatu came back to life. He did not simply release him: he recruited him as his agent. Things ended in disaster during the Reckoning War, a war between the Watchers and the Reckoning. The Moon itself was destroyed, but Uatu (who is now more like Eternity) rebuilt it at the end. Along with his former home and everything within, which is now for Fury to use as he see fit.

Fury is now "The Man on the Wall", someone who takes covert action against threats to Earth from outer space. This means... don't be surprised if he appears in this new Secret Invasion. It's his job. I would ask for his resignation if he doesn't!

Essentially the comics had to catch up to the MCU which shuttered SHIELD but these characters and the vacuum of not having something to do with them required a storyline. Actually, Empyre was fun if a bit of a mess to follow.

[Golden_Guardian]

He got MCU synergy-ed into a background role. Be good to see him come back properly though.

[Huntsman Spider]

If you've read the Hickman/Weaver SHIELD minis, there's a history that has been added going back centuries. There are also historic figures involved like Nostradamus, Da Vinci, Tesla, and Isaac Newton. In order to keep Fury somewhat closer to human (which IMO works best), he can be brought into this group. But that's my hope and plan.

That would be a good plan, yeah.

Question 1: the black Nick Fury.

Two decades ago, Marvel reinvented most of its characters in the Ultimate Marvel universe. Nick Fury was reimagined in "The Ultimates", with the likeness of Samuel Jackson. It was one of the best received reimaginations, even 616-Fury used it as a "disguise" a time he was undercover. Then the real-life Samuel Jackson played the part in the MCU films, and now that's the default aspect of Nick Fury for audiences everywhere. Even animated series and videogames use it if they include him. We still had the problem that Ultimate Marvel was an alternate universe, so they created "Nick Fury Jr." to have him around. And to avoid having two, they retired the original one (more about it later). Ultimate Marvel ended during Secret Wars, but Ultimate Nick was not rescued from it like Miles Morales and the Maker because 616 already had him, in a way. So, that's the guy.

SHIELD was closed after Secret Empire, and then we did not see very often. There's little to do with a guy defined by SHIELD if SHIELD is out of the picture. He has been in an Iron Man annual, Daughters of the Dragon, Invisible Woman, Fantastic Four, Black Cat, and a dispute with Nighthawk in a comic whose name I forgot.

Question 2: the white Nick Fury.

The original one had a long life because he used the "infinite formula" or something like that (super soldier serum under another name), but it was running out. For reasons I forgot (the plot was a bit convoluted) he killed Uatu the Watcher, and the other Watchers sentenced him to be "The Unseen". Basically, a Watcher himself, chained to the Moon. In some times he did the Uatu thing of "I see everything but can not interfere".

When Empyre ended (a between humans, Kree and Skrulls against the Cotati) he took a pair of Cotati weapons, to study them, and Uatu came back to life. He did not simply release him: he recruited him as his agent. Things ended in disaster during the Reckoning War, a war between the Watchers and the Reckoning. The Moon itself was destroyed, but Uatu (who is now more like Eternity) rebuilt it at the end. Along with his former home and everything within, which is now for Fury to use as he see fit.

Fury is now "The Man on the Wall", someone who takes covert action against threats to Earth from outer space. This means... don't be surprised if he appears in this new Secret Invasion. It's his job. I would ask for his resignation if he doesn't!

Thanks for the summation. Also a good point at the end.

That, I had all that...this just didn't read like Nick Fury Jr. to me, he seemed way too casual with Maria Hill that I felt that it had to be either a tie in to the upcoming movie, they just decided to make Fury look like Sam Jackson(and by extension Ultimate Fury) and I missed it...or the writer just wasn't all that familiar/ didn't care about continuity and it's suposed to be Fury Jr but it just reads like he has the same relationships and history as regular Fury.

It seems like the latter, and while that won't bother me much in the long run so long as the story is interesting it is a little weird.

Technically, the MCU Secret Invasion is supposed to be a limited series on Disney+. It's Armor Wars that got changed from a Disney+ limited series to a theatrical feature film.

[KurtW95]

Synergy. Which is awful. I wasn't a fan of the Ultimate Universe but it should've stayed around and not crossed over into or altered 616 based on the movies.

[KurtW95]

Pretty cheap that Marvel's way of honoring Nick Fury's 60th anniversary is to showcase Jr. and not have Steranko involved.

[charliehustle415]

Pretty cheap that Marvel's way of honoring Nick Fury's 60th anniversary is to showcase Jr. and not have Steranko involved.

100%

not only that but Steranko's art was so out of this world and to not have that in a pride of place is criminal