Gold Goblin#1 Spoilers & Discussion

[Kevinroc]

Peter is dating Felicia again despite what she's done to him in the past.

The writing on the main title is… not good right now.

[Alex_Of_X]

Peter is dating Felicia again despite what she's done to him in the past.

It's been 6 months in canon since the "incident," right?

Man is down bad lmao.

[Huntsman Spider]

Peter is dating Felicia again despite what she's done to him in the past.

Are we talking about when Felicia got involved with the Foreigner so she could set Spider-Man up for a trap as revenge for him dumping her, assaulting and threatening Mary Jane when she found out Peter had married her, or even all that Queenpin s*** that also involved her nearly killing Aunt May and Jay Jameson in a fire to get back at them for participating in an auction of all the stuff she'd stolen over the years before Superior Spider-Man tossed her off to the NYPD without a second thought?

[CaptainUniverse]

Are we talking about when Felicia got involved with the Foreigner so she could set Spider-Man up for a trap as revenge for him dumping her, assaulting and threatening Mary Jane when she found out Peter had married her, or even all that Queenpin s*** that also involved her nearly killing Aunt May and Jay Jameson in a fire to get back at them for participating in an auction of all the stuff she'd stolen over the years before Superior Spider-Man tossed her off to the NYPD without a second thought?

Didn't she also steal The Infinity Gauntlet and put a lot of people in danger because of that?

[Huntsman Spider]

Didn't she also steal The Infinity Gauntlet and put a lot of people in danger because of that?

Oh, yeah. Granted, it was to save her mother from dying of cancer or something, but she did still potentially endanger the entire universe in a way that might not have been as different from the Black Fox being willing to literally sacrifice everyone in Manhattan to give himself and Felicia immortality as she might like to think.

[Refrax5]

I thought it was a good issue. I like that Cantwell doesn't let Osborn off easy. Just because his "sins" were forgivendoesn't mean he gets to escape the guilt of what he's done. Also liked that Harry was in there which should appease those who took issue with Norman just being haunted by Gwen. Still, I have to wonder how much of this is Norman's psyche post Sin-Eater, and how much is influenced the Goblin Queen, Kafka. That would be disappointing, since Loki tormented Osborn similarly in the Dark Reign era.

Peter's reactions still seem off. Norman going from "no violence" to "I think I can be a super hero" should be setting off all sorts of alarms. It's like an alcoholic saying they can handle one drink and then it becomes two, etc.

Overall a pretty compelling read that I hope continues in this manner and avoids what we all assume will be the obvious ending...

This is probably the darkest, most thoughtful "villain turns good" story I've read in comics. The gnawing emptiness, the instability, the constant inner torment, the barely restrained violence...it's done in such a bleak, smart, haunting way. The very wholesome scene of Norman eating ice cream and watching his grandson at little league contrasted with his inner thoughts of Gwen's neck snapping over and over was so brilliant. It really doesn't pull any punches with the horrors of Osborn's life.

[CaptainUniverse]

Oh, yeah. Granted, it was to save her mother from dying of cancer or something, but she did still potentially endanger the entire universe in a way that might not have been as different from the Black Fox being willing to literally sacrifice everyone in Manhattan to give himself and Felicia immortality as she might like to think.

I don't think stealing one of the most dangerous artifacts in the Marvel Universe is something she can be excused or forgiven for just because her mother was dying of cancer. I am still having trouble understanding how she managed not to bring the wrath of Eternity, Master Order, Lord Chaos, Master Hate, Mistress Love, The Celestials and Galactus down upon herself for her selfish and reckless behavior in stealing the Gauntlet. She should have been hauled in by The Magistrati to be judged by The Living Tribunal like Adam Warlock was!

[Demoslider]

Peter made a deal with Marvel's version of the devil to save an old woman who should have been dead long ago. I think that is up there with some the other characters' notorious deeds.

[Mercwmouth12]

Here's the big question really
Will Marvel let Wells turn Norman evil again or give it to Cantwell?

[Rob London]

Either the clone of Steven Levins from Clone Conspiracy or the Imposter who tangled with Venom in the Donny Cates run (and the War of the Realms tie-ins). Or someone new (or back from the dead).

https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Steve...ns_(Earth-616)

https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Jack_...II)_(Earth-616)

It's definitely the guy from the Cates run - that guy wore an eyepatch, and so is this guy, which we see after his helmet gets blown apart.

[Blanks]

This was a surprisingly good issue….

[rward777]

Here's the big question really
Will Marvel let Wells turn Norman evil again or give it to Cantwell?

Cantwell sets the stage,Wells finishes

[Vegeta]

I don't think stealing one of the most dangerous artifacts in the Marvel Universe is something she can be excused or forgiven for just because her mother was dying of cancer. I am still having trouble understanding how she managed not to bring the wrath of Eternity, Master Order, Lord Chaos, Master Hate, Mistress Love, The Celestials and Galactus down upon herself for her selfish and reckless behavior in stealing the Gauntlet. She should have been hauled in by The Magistrati to be judged by The Living Tribunal like Adam Warlock was!

Thanos was never truly punished by any of those cosmic entities after stealing and snapping out half of the universe, imprisoning said entities and even transforming himself into Eternity either. He originally got to retire on a planet as a farmer, and last I checked he is still running around the cosmos freely. (And any time he "dies" it is always a clone.) Also stealing seems to be the general way anyone comes into possession of the Infinity Stones. (The Hood stole them, the Illuminati stole them, the Guardians of the Galaxy stole them, etc. etc.)

And weren't the stones transformed into people (like Star) at the time anyways?

[Xwho]

Either the clone of Steven Levins from Clone Conspiracy or the Imposter who tangled with Venom in the Donny Cates run (and the War of the Realms tie-ins). Or someone new (or back from the dead).

https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Steve...ns_(Earth-616)

https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Jack_...II)_(Earth-616)

How is the one from cates run a fake anyway?

[Huntsman Spider]

This is probably the darkest, most thoughtful "villain turns good" story I've read in comics. The gnawing emptiness, the instability, the constant inner torment, the barely restrained violence...it's done in such a bleak, smart, haunting way. The very wholesome scene of Norman eating ice cream and watching his grandson at little league contrasted with his inner thoughts of Gwen's neck snapping over and over was so brilliant. It really doesn't pull any punches with the horrors of Osborn's life.

Indeed.

I don't think stealing one of the most dangerous artifacts in the Marvel Universe is something she can be excused or forgiven for just because her mother was dying of cancer. I am still having trouble understanding how she managed not to bring the wrath of Eternity, Master Order, Lord Chaos, Master Hate, Mistress Love, The Celestials and Galactus down upon herself for her selfish and reckless behavior in stealing the Gauntlet. She should have been hauled in by The Magistrati to be judged by The Living Tribunal like Adam Warlock was!

Like I said at the end, not as different from Black Fox, her erstwhile beloved mentor, sacrificing all of Manhattan for himself and Felicia to be immortal as Felicia would like to think.