X-Men #17 - Review/Spoilers

[Fokken]

You know it's only going to be used to reset Young Laura back into the pre-Liu Clone Identity Angst.

I don't actually. Have you seen spoilers? Do you have the inside scoop, Amby?

[Ambaryerno]

I don't actually. Have you seen spoilers? Do you have the inside scoop, Amby?

It's a logical prediction because comics.

[JB]

Agreed my man. I'm going to enjoy today and not let any of the debate dampen how much I enjoyed the issue. Also I do believe this was the first time we got a glimpse of Firestar actually being happy on this team.

Firestar saying it’s a good day was really sweet. Scott even let his hair out. I like it loose with his current costume.

[Devaishwarya]

This Issue felt very Short to me, but i'm happy Synch got his Woman back. This may be wishful thinking, but hopefully Serafina can repay the Mutants back for rescuing her from Orchis.

My take is...she just did.

By allowing Forge to leave and take OLLaura with him without incident...and without alerting the other Children to the simulation ruse.

[Devaishwarya]

So we're just gonna keep waiting on the whole "Is it a clone or not" thing with the protocols huh

Well...if that's what you choose to do...go right ahead. Wait as long as you like.

While I will not speak for anyone else...I have moved on and moved past it long, long ago.

[gonnagiveittoya]

Well...if that's what you choose to do...go right ahead. Wait as long as you like.

While I will not speak for anyone else...I have moved on and moved past it long, long ago.

I mean given all of Laura's clone angst you would think that after all this time learning that now she for sure is just a clone and not a real person would be kind of a big deal

[Devaishwarya]

Enh. New Laura hasn't learned yet that Old Laura is alive and well on Krakoa.
Clearly that story is yet to be told.

If ever Duggan decides to tell it...when New Laura gets back from either fighting Brood in space or having the worst/best night of her life fighting Vampires.

[Frontier]

I'm surprised so many people seem emotionally invested in Synch/OWL.

[Nazrel]

I mean given all of Laura's clone angst you would think that after all this time learning that now she for sure is just a clone and not a real person would be kind of a big deal

But she'd always been "just" a clone, her sisters "just" a clone; at this point why would she see this as in anyway de-validating of herself as an individual?

I think she'd be one of the ones to take it best.

[gonnagiveittoya]

But she'd always been "just" a clone, her sisters "just" a clone; at this point why would she see this as in anyway de-validating of herself as an individual?

I think she'd be one of the ones to take it best.

The difference is now she'd literally not even be Laura.

[Nazrel]

The difference is now she'd literally not even be Laura.

Fair enough, but "My life is a lie" is sightly different then "Clone angst".

I still think she'd find a measure of comfort in that she didn't lose several lifetimes worth of experiences, and be one of the ones better mentally equipped to having several versions of herself walking around.

[Ulysian_Thracs]

You know it's only going to be used to reset Young Laura back into the pre-Liu Clone Identity Angst.

But I can hope that means a Young Laura brings back the New X-Men and they do it right this time. (I know I won't get it. But I can hope...)

Fair enough, but "My life is a lie" is sightly different then "Clone angst".

I still think she'd find a measure of comfort in that she didn't lose several lifetimes worth of experiences, and be one of the ones better mentally equipped to having several versions of herself walking around.

I don't see this as a Laura problem as much as a Krakoa problem. All of the replacement mutants are clones and their lives are lies. Young Laura is just slightly better equipped to deal with that than anyone else.

[Devaishwarya]

Pretty much. @Nazrel

She may not be The Laura but she's A Laura...Who has her own identity and memories post resurrection quite separate and distinct from newly returned Old Laura.

And now I really want that conversation to happen between the two. It could be used to clear up a lot of "misconceptions" about resurrected persons and just how valid their lives and memories and experiences are in the present and going forward.

[Triniking1234]

You know it's only going to be used to reset Young Laura back into the pre-Liu Clone Identity Angst.

Doubt it. Pretty sure Duggan's gonna solve this ASAP.

[JB]

I'm still concerned about what it means being her age now that she's outside of the Vault. Can her healing factor stall the aging process that much? How old was Old Man Logan supposed to be, do we know? The data page mentioning Forge using Tempo's powers to dodge the "temporal storm" made me doubly concerned.