DCU Movies

[Refrax5]

I'll say this about Ezra: they're obviously a very troubled individual and they need help, but The Flash trailer proved that they're an incredible actor. It takes a lot for someone to communicate pain in an effortless manner through a mask. Ezra did that. They're very talented.



At this point, that's just a rumor. It essentially started when James Gunn posted a picture of Lobo on some Internet forum, and then some fans on Twitter were basically like "You know who looks like Lobo? Jason Momoa."

I always felt Miller was very talented. You just need to watch We Need To Talk About Kevin and contrast that to their roles in Perks of Being a Wallflower or as Flash to see the range they have. I think people take issue more with the writing of the character and dump those issues on Miller.

On the other hand, you're right that Miller is clearly somebody with deep problems that probably needs serious help rather than headlining a major franchise. Considering that WB apparently considered shelving the movie over their behavior, I doubt they want to roll the dice on them again.

[Frontier]

I always felt Miller was very talented. You just need to watch We Need To Talk About Kevin and contrast that to their roles in Perks of Being a Wallflower or as Flash to see the range they have. I think people take issue more with the writing of the character and dump those issues on Miller.

On the other hand, you're right that Miller is clearly somebody with deep problems that probably needs serious help rather than headlining a major franchise. Considering that WB apparently considered shelving the movie over their behavior, I doubt they want to roll the dice on them again.

I have nothing against their acting talent, just from a writing and visual perspective they just don't feel like Barry to me...more like some weird hodgepodge of various Flashes together stuck in less than stellar Flash suits.

[Green Goblin of Sector 2814]

Edit: Also just look at what most of the directors for the DCEU are doing. Wan is already gone, Sandburg just said he’s done, Jenkins is gone, Affleck flat out said he has no desire to work with Gunn. Only guy who might stick around is Andy Muschietti. When most of the old directors are exiting that’s a clear sign where things are headed.

Yes, because franchise films have never changed directors before...

[skyvolt2000]

I don't believe Snyder was always "vilified" I mean look when his daughter died no one here even us who weren't fans of his films had anything but sympathy for the man and what position that put him in with Justice League. The issue has been the "Snyder Bros/Snyder Cult" they are some of the most Toxic fanbase ever they wish destruction on anything not Snyder even other DC projects and then Snyder fanning the flames with them is what soured many on him.

As for the Rock I don't think any cameos would have saved Black Adam or Shazam, but the ego on that man to think DC films should be centered around him is astounding.

This. They refuse to let it go and will hide behind donations in his daughter's name and what about what is said about Snyder. Folks offered their opinions about him and NEVER went after him to the level John Boyega, Rose Tico, Leslie Jones, Brie Larson, The Rock, Walter Hamada and others.


As for The Rock when your box office says you should have an ego-that happens at times. Now if he wanted a film centered around him-Black Adam would be the LAST person I would have chosen.

Heck pick someone who didn't need 260 million dollar budget. Would Booster Gold or Wildcat or Hawkman work?

[mace11]

Here is some interesting talk.
Directors Are Getting Turned Off The Superhero Movies: Shazam Director Says He's Done

Note-i disagree with comment in the video by the viewer when he said phase 4 mcu put a bad taste in every one mouth and ant-man 3.It did not not for most folks.

[mace11]

Shazam Star Zachary Levi Confirms Rock's Interference, Says Marketing Was To Blame

[Beantownbrown]

Blue Beetle Star Teases Trailer Coming Soon

[Robotman]

Blue Beetle Star Teases Trailer Coming Soon

Cool! Though I’m hoping it doesn’t come out until late April or early May. They need to connect this movie to the Flash hype machine as much as possible and let the Shazam disappointment not be so fresh in everyone’s mind.

[Ascended]

I have nothing against their acting talent, just from a writing and visual perspective they just don't feel like Barry to me...more like some weird hodgepodge of various Flashes together stuck in less than stellar Flash suits.

I feel that way about the CW guy too, and....well, damn near every larger media version I've seen. New Frontier got Barry pretty well, as I recall. Maybe that WWII era JSA cartoon that came out a couple years ago?

But I see Barry as a fairly quiet, introspective guy, and that doesn't necessarily translate well into film I guess.

Miller's a fantastic actor. But also a train wreck of a human being. Award winning acting is great, but not really *necessary* for action movies. Better to drop them and move on with somebody who can behave in public.

[Mantis-Ray]

Main Miller is just a time bomb. The longer they are still onboard the worst the potential implosion is going to be.

Especially since the kidnapping charges against Miller haven't actually been dropped yet. Those people he allegedly took still haven't come up yet.

Its gonna be a long couple months until Flash comes out and we can finally drop them.

[Tomkatie]

I feel that way about the CW guy too, and....well, damn near every larger media version I've seen. New Frontier got Barry pretty well, as I recall. Maybe that WWII era JSA cartoon that came out a couple years ago?

But I see Barry as a fairly quiet, introspective guy, and that doesn't necessarily translate well into film I guess.

Miller's a fantastic actor. But also a train wreck of a human being. Award winning acting is great, but not really *necessary* for action movies. Better to drop them and move on with somebody who can behave in public.

I honestly didn't have too many problems with the DCAMU Barry.

Imo the best media adapted Barrys have been those that play up his nerdy but earnest scientist side while throwing in a bit of superhero geekdom. While there are some elements of that in Ezra's Barry, their interpretation just feels way too hyperactive and impulsive, which very much aren't Barry

[Tomkatie]

Main Miller is just a time bomb. The longer they are still onboard the worst the potential implosion is going to be.

Especially since the kidnapping charges against Miller haven't actually been dropped yet. Those people he allegedly took still haven't come up yet.

Its gonna be a long couple months until Flash comes out and we can finally drop them.

Hey when it comes to Ezra, no news is good news

I genuinely hope they're sincere about their recovery and will put in the work after Flashpoint's been released, but yeah there's no way WB is keeping them

[HsssH]

I don't believe Snyder was always "vilified" I mean look when his daughter died no one here even us who weren't fans of his films had anything but sympathy for the man and what position that put him in with Justice League. The issue has been the "Snyder Bros/Snyder Cult" they are some of the most Toxic fanbase ever they wish destruction on anything not Snyder even other DC projects and then Snyder fanning the flames with them is what soured many on him.

People were literally saying that his daughter killed herself due to how **** his movies were.

[bat39]

I have nothing against their acting talent, just from a writing and visual perspective they just don't feel like Barry to me...more like some weird hodgepodge of various Flashes together stuck in less than stellar Flash suits.

Yeah, I'm not a great fan of Ezra's Barry. I mean, he puts in a decent performance, but it's not like any version of Barry Allen I'm familiar with. I guess he feels a bit like a watered-down version of Bart?

I know people used to complain a lot about Grant Gustin's Barry not feeling like comic-book Barry. But over time, Grant's Barry has grown into something very close to the comic-book version, albeit filtered through the lens of the 2010's rather than the 1950's. Maybe the plan was for Ezra's Barry to have a similar growth had he been in more films, but I just don't see it...

[Frontier]

I feel that way about the CW guy too, and....well, damn near every larger media version I've seen. New Frontier got Barry pretty well, as I recall. Maybe that WWII era JSA cartoon that came out a couple years ago?

But I see Barry as a fairly quiet, introspective guy, and that doesn't necessarily translate well into film I guess.

Miller's a fantastic actor. But also a train wreck of a human being. Award winning acting is great, but not really *necessary* for action movies. Better to drop them and move on with somebody who can behave in public.

I agree with Bat39. Gustin's Barry grew a lot into a traditional Barry as the show went along in my opinion, especially compared to other Barry's.