DCU Movies

[Gaastra]

Note also--

Also unlikely is a sequel to Black Adam. Despite the hype surrounding the movie of launching a new corner of DC, a lot of it led by star Dwayne Johnson, the movie has only grossed $385 million worldwide and insiders at the studio say the movie, which cost more than $190 million to produce (two sources peg the actual cost at $230 million, not including marketing), will be lucky to break even, even considering ancillary revenue. Even if the movie does eke out a minimal profit, any follow-up’s inherent rising costs dim the prospect of a sequel.

Johnson hoped to carve out his own piece of the DC pie, but multiple sources say his playing up of a returning Cavill and his own involvement with DC may not be endearing him to the new management. Johnson and Cavill are both managed by Dany Garcia, who is also Johnson’s producing partner. The perception of Adam turning a profit or not is a conflagration now being waged in public, with Johnson tweeting the movie would net over $50 million after a Variety story said the movie would lose over $50 million theatrically.

As for aquaman--

Momoa, meanwhile, could emerge as a pivotal figure into the new plans, according to several sources. In one scenario, the actor would wrap up his days as underwater hero Arthur Curry with Lost City, due out Dec. 25, 2023, which would be the final movie released that was made by the previous regime. But it would not spell the end of the actor’s involvement with DC, with sources saying the actor would lead another movie or franchise. The character of Lobo, a foul-mouthed cigar-chomping intergalactic bounty hunter, has been mentioned in connection with Momoa.

So he will go from aquaman to lobo in the new reboot?

[BlackClaw]

Note also--



As for aquaman--



So he will go from aquaman to lobo in the new reboot?

I sure hope so! And I hope Gunn at least keeps Henry around to play a new version of Superman.

[BlackClaw]

There’s no way they’re leaving Batman out of the new shared universe, and given Reeves was one of the first people Gunn called… maybe Reeves has agreed to place his Batman in a shared universe. Otherwise I can’t imagine they wouldn’t pull the plug on him too.

I always thought the Batman would be a great launching point for a new shared universe since Battison is still new to being a hero.

[Amadeus Arkham]

I think that if the first Wonder Woman hadn't been a big success they would have rebooted the DCEU inmediately after Justice League lost money.

I think it's the right choice though. At this point trying to salvage the DCEU is a sunk cost fallacy. There is no Batman. WW84 was badly received. Ezra Miller is a criminal. Cyborg is not appearing again. The Snyder cultists are still crazy. The Suicide Squad, Birds Of Prey and Black Adam bombed.

I’m not sure this new automatically points towards a hard reboot but I wouldn’t be surprised about some recasts/reboots of some characters. It’s very possible that whenever the next WW happens it won’t be Patty Jenkins helming the movie and Gadot starring as WW.

[Vordan]

I think that if the first Wonder Woman hadn't been a big success they would have rebooted the DCEU inmediately after Justice League lost money.

I think it's the right choice though. At this point trying to salvage the DCEU is a sunk cost fallacy. There is no Batman. WW84 was badly received. Ezra Miller is a criminal. Cyborg is not appearing again. The Snyder cultists are still crazy. The Suicide Squad, Birds Of Prey and Black Adam bombed.

The big problem is that you’re asking people to jump in to a new shared universe right as people are starting to get superhero fatigue. A clean slate means you have to start completely over. I think it’s the right call too, but one they should have made after JL flopped.

[Mantis-Ray]

I feel like this part of the article needs to be mentioned.

The rest of the DC slate remains in flux, or at least being kept deep in a pocket of Gunn’s own utility belt but there are several rumors and possible scenarios to considerahead of next week’s meeting.

The article admits this is basically speculation and they are clearly going with the most extreme assumptions possible.

[Guy_McNichts]

The ONLY silver lining I see in this WW3 news is apparently the script was indeed co-written by Geoff Johns, so we dodged that nitwit's influence again.

But I have zero hope for Wonder Woman's cinematic future. Frankly, I'll be shocked if she even gets another solo movie again, and I cannot fathom James Gunn having a good sense of what to do with her. He only cares about D-listers and misfit characters. Diana will only exist to be a humorless den mother who gets mocked by Harley and Peacemaker.

[Dagothoth]

I feel like this part of the article needs to be mentioned.



The article admits this is basically speculation and they are clearly going with the most extreme assumptions possible.

Problem is that there are a bunch of CONFIRMED rumors that DC is indeed looking to close the book

Hollywood reporter states that they had filmed Superman cameos for flash but are debating on whether to scrap them because they do not want to create the appearance that This franchise has a future…this isn’t speculation

[kingaliencracker]

The big problem is that you’re asking people to jump in to a new shared universe right as people are starting to get superhero fatigue. A clean slate means you have to start completely over. I think it’s the right call too, but one they should have made after JL flopped.

Had Wonder Woman flopped it's almost a foregone conclusion that that would have happened.

[kingaliencracker]

Again, posted elsewhere but relevant here...

This article is pretty confusing in that it says repeatedly that Gunn and Safran are keeping things really close to the vest and things are fluid, but Gadot, Cavill, and Mamoa are definitely out and we're likely heading for a full blown reboot that somehow still involves Pattison's Batman and Phoenix's Joker?

First off, if I were Cavill I would tell WB to f-off and sign on for a huge role with Marvel. That poor dude has done nothing but express his love and desire to continue playing Superman, and WB keeps screwing him over.

Second, I can see why WB would want to move on from Jenkins' WW, even if I don't necessarily agree with it. The 2nd movie was a mixed bag but its release was handled so poorly that it didn't even really have a chance. The first movie was also the first truly successful non-Batman film WB produced since Superman II, so you think there would be some desire to let the trilogy play out. But again, I get it, especially in trying to follow the 2nd film. And if Jenkins and Johns turned in a script that was similar to the second film, then it's probably for the best.

Third, how can they already decide Momoa is out as Aquaman when his first movie made A BILLION dollars with mostly average reviews and they haven't even released the 2nd one yet? Will that still hold true if the second Aquaman makes another billion? That makes zero sense.

Fourth, if the plan is still to continue with Joker and The Batman franchises, then it to me this is already a lost battle. I understand why they want to continue both franchises based on the money they made but continuing with them is 100% counter to a cohesive, singular direction for the DC film universe. And to be honest, didn't really think either movie was blow-away amazing.

Last but not least...I really liked Shazam. For me, it was the best DC film to come out of the Snyderverse. It feels now like once the sequel is released, that will be it. And that's a damn shame.

But honestly, a total reboot is probably for the best and something I've been advocating for a year or so. I just can't see them pulling it off especially if a) The Batman and Joker franchises continue; and b) Gunn wants to keep his Suicide Squad universe in-tact.

[Gaastra]

Deadline also reporting they heard ww3 is killed also. They also question cavill returning saying man of steel 2 has no script or director yet from what they heard.

Ironic gal just posted yesterday on twitter how she was so happy playing ww and can't wait to return in part 3. oops. Bad timing.

[Nite-Wing]

Reboot is happening likely because of a crisis
Oh but all the suicide squad spin offs and movie characters are safe

Seems about right for Gunn to keep all his stuff safe and axe everything else that was flopping

[Vordan]

Deadline also reporting they heard ww3 is killed also. They also question cavill returning saying man of steel 2 has no script or director yet from what they heard.

Ironic gal just posted yesterday on twitter how she was so happy playing ww and can't wait to return in part 3. oops. Bad timing.

https://deadline.com/2022/12/wonder-...235192829/amp/

The article in question (seriously you guys need to link this stuff). Says it’s possible Jenkins could hand in another treatment but unlikely. Oh and talks may have broken down between Cavill and WBD again. Still nobody knows exactly what the plans are for the other DC heroes Deadline claims.

[Mantis-Ray]

https://deadline.com/2022/12/wonder-...235192829/amp/

The article in question (seriously you guys need to link this stuff). Says it’s possible Jenkins could hand in another treatment but unlikely. Oh and talks may have broken down between Cavill and WBD again. Still nobody knows exactly what the plans are for the other DC heroes Deadline claims.

This is such a **** mess, its mind-boggling

What a waste of time bringing Cavill back

[LifeIsILL]

Can't they just rewrite the script if Gunn thinks it's crap?

And I'm pretty sure the script is crap.