One of the few things I really liked about 'Justice League' was Cavill's dark Superman. I like that Superman is character people trust, but that he can also lean into anger when needed. No one wants him to always be a boy scout. That's something they tried to do with Captain Marvel/Shazam.
Well, as I said, Morrison's version was plenty tough. I liked Waid's depiction of Clark's personality in Birthright. There certainly have been writers that know how to handle Superman in that way. The only recent interactions I've really read with Superman and Batman were in World's Finest, where the two are shown to respect and admire each other.
I've always been a big fan of the Earth 2/Golden Age Superman so, for as much as I love the Donner-esque versions that are kinda "Oh, golly Lois" dorky and sweet, I prefer my Superman with a bit of roughneck in him.
My issue with Cavill's Superman is that he barely spoke. He had such little dialogue compared to everyone else in both BvS and MoS and he really only says a few lines in ZSJL, I don't remember JL2017 but he couldn't have been that much more chatty in that either. Silent Superman just did not work for me, even with all the stuff I loved about that version of the character.
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I completely understand your perspective as i've caught up on the *other* divide (Cyborg in JL vs Cyborg as a Titan). Admittedly....i don't really care much either way. I've never been much of a JL fan. If i was forced to choose between Cyborg being on one of the 2 teams i'd choose the Titans as it seems , IMO, Batman overshadows everything he is a part of. I'm not quite sure how Cyborg, a living computer, was written as a 2nd option on the JL with regard to strategy and intelligence but ...writers pulled it off in the past LOL. Hat tip to them. That's a heck of a feat heh.
Ultimately i just wanted a good comic book movie that included Cyborg. That seems to not be in the cards so *shrugs* i'll spend my money on other things. If WB doesn't care ...i don't care.
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I am.the reverse..The guy gives speeches to make your ears bleed.Sheesh! whatever happened to the man of action... heck! I was even questing why the dork(pop culture idea of superman) are in action comics..Then read orginal action comics run of siegel and shuster.Then i got it.
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My fave Superman is a guy who can and HAS talked villains into renouncing their villainy.
Yeah, I felt that way, too. I get that he was supposed to be a bit internal in the first film as he felt alienated from the world and was a bit of a wandering loner, but he was a hard character to connect with in any way. They didn't give Routh enough lines in his movie either, but he was at least given a version of the character that conveyed a lot of warmth, emotion and dorky charm.
I think Cavill could have been a more memorable Superman if they'd given him a more expressive take on the character.
Sure enough that will work Against me.i am the most stubborn rock headed guy. BeCause he will talk me to Death .i wouldn't be a problem no more.But wouldn't that be against his."code"?also,i think you spelled dcau wally west the wrong way."grammy flash said an eye for an eye turns the whole world blind".
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Honestly, dude, it seems like you're only a fan of the Golden Age version of the character. I love that version, too, but I feel like most of your posts are just about how you only like a very specific version of the character from 80 years ago and hate everything about him since. I mean, my favorite version of Batman is the Michael Keaton movie version, but I'm not on Batman boards every day complaining about how the mainstream Batman sucks and the comics should be tailored to my personal favorite Batman that only existed for a brief window of time.
I'm not sure what the point of these posts are besides to say you pretty much hate Superman except for one version.
And for the record, sometimes talking someone down IS the right thing to do. I'm all for Superman being tough when he needs to be, but violence for the sake of violence isn't really heroic.