Marvel Collected Editions

[jjsheridan1001]

I remember an interview in Rolling Stone with Bob Dylan (this was around 2002 or so) in which he dismissed a lot of popular music and he talked about what separated his generation from the (then current) one was that his generation understood their roots and the music that came before them, and that knowledge allowed them to craft truly innovative music because only by understanding what came before can you rise above it. In his view, Dylan believed that most of the artists of the modern era were mimicking what they liked without understanding of the craft, and therefore it would only rise to the level of imitation.

I feel like many modern writers are guilty of that; old comics are a Wikipedia article rather than something they live and breath and read, and I feel like so many of them are, as you say, influenced by cinema overly so. They almost seem to be plotting to what would make a good movie or a good movie tie-in (though, to be fair I'm sure a lot of this is editorial control) rather than understanding what makes a good comics story. My biggest gripe is, as you say, comics have been somewhat serialized for awhile, but it used to be each issue told it's own story as well. I read so many single issues now that simply do not stand on their own as a single story; they are simply part of a larger arc. That bothers me because it shows a distinct lack of complexity in the story being told.

[Trigganosis]

CGN's Black Friday deal starts at 3PM PST today ...
I hope to get the Alias omnibus and Age of Apocalypse Companion omnibus for a great price!

[PrankT]

Bah! If the bargains are no longer allowed on this thread, I'm kind of done here. I've been reading this thread in one iteration or another (almost) daily since the big amazon glitch of 2010. Remember the $10.50 Stand Omnibus? Or how about in the old days the daily deals with thwipster.com? Kind of silly to have another whole thread to keep up with but whatever.

Agreed. A separate thread for deals is not necessary.

[Balltic05]

What does that have to do with having a new thread for deals only? 90% of the deals posted here are American only deals, just as 90% of the deals posted on the new deals thread will be American. I don't see how a new deals thread lowers your chances of finding a good Euro deal.

You've misunderstood me mate.
In the current thread the "deals" are mixed in with the rest of the discussion. If a deal doesn't refer to you - simply move on to the next post.

With a brand new "deals only" thread us Euros will be flicking through pages of American deals without any chat breaking them up...that's pretty boring!

[raskoks]

I've never bought in CNG. Are they ok? Somebody bought smth to europe and can tell about shipping costs?

[Rimmer]

CGN's Black Friday deal starts at 3PM PST today ...
I hope to get the Alias omnibus and Age of Apocalypse Companion omnibus for a great price!

So ~5.5 hours from now.
It'll be interesting to see what they have on sale, and if any titles are discounted steeply, then that could be a sign that those will be the big titles for the rest of the year everywhere.

[TomSlick]

Bah! If the bargains are no longer allowed on this thread, I'm kind of done here. I've been reading this thread in one iteration or another (almost) daily since the big amazon glitch of 2010. Remember the $10.50 Stand Omnibus? Or how about in the old days the daily deals with thwipster.com? Kind of silly to have another whole thread to keep up with but whatever.

Agreed. Maybe we could get some leeway here? As historically, before the big CBR crash, deals were often included in this the progenitor of this thread.

I'm not happy about the separate threads, either, but maybe if it's just for the holiday period . . .

[aquitaine]

Bah! If the bargains are no longer allowed on this thread, I'm kind of done here. I've been reading this thread in one iteration or another (almost) daily since the big amazon glitch of 2010. Remember the $10.50 Stand Omnibus? Or how about in the old days the daily deals with thwipster.com? Kind of silly to have another whole thread to keep up with but whatever.

Yeah, that's how I'm feeling. A very small vocal minority have been trying to segregate conversation here for years and we've always rebuffed them. This thread has always been a small community in and of itself. I don't have any interest in traipsing through 5 different threads to get the same info I used to get from one. All this change does is make this thread less useful and less of a community. We've been doing our thing for almost 5 year or so now. What possible reason could there be to keep people from posting about deals in the single biggest collected editions thread? I know that for some reason mods here seem bizarrely desperate to force people to browse thread after thread after thread for the info that was previously contained in a single one, but this thread has long been the hold out. This is a damn shame.

[alb2009]

What next? A new thread for all the thin paper complaints/arguments and another solely for Gregatron's disillusionment with modern comics?

In all seriousness, if the shelf porn, deals, dwindling quality issues, packaging, customer service ("you da man, charlie brown") etc. are all removed one by one, what's honestly left here to develop discussion? I know its more organized but I've rarely ventured out of the DC and Marvel (and sometimes General) forums because those new threads rarely allow conversation to flow organically. Posts are too focused on staying on-topic and the whole experience feels boring and artificial.

[Raffi Ol D'Arcy]

Hey Nz_InFerno and SJNeal, what are the chances of putting the Bargains issue to a democratic vote? It could be similar to the "banner" on the DC Collected Thread re:Omnibus, Absolute or Deluxe.

I could be wrong but I believe the majority of us would prefer that we had the option to talk about bargains on this Thread.

[aquitaine]

In all seriousness, if the shelf porn, deals, dwindling quality issues, packaging, customer service ("you da man, charlie brown") etc. are all removed one by one, what's honestly left here to develop discussion?

Nothing. Everything that we used to discuss in this thread is being taken away from us and shoved into separate threads because...? As far as I can tell, it's just a continuation of the concerted effort mods have made for years now to break up this thread entirely. Some people just aren't happy allowing people to continue doing things the way they're happy. Everything needs to be controlled. It should be abundantly clear at this point that the thread regulars don't want this thread censored, broken up, and chipped away at, but that's not stopping the powers that be.

[Horizon]

I'm all for keeping the deals here. That is one of the main reasons this thread is so awesome.

[LordJulius]

Have to agree with everyone else here: deals on collected Marvel editions should be posted in the Marvel collected editions thread. If that isn't on topic I don't know what is. I mean we even have long posts about where to get the best deals for these books or best shipping options etc. on the first page and nobody has complained about them - on the contrary people keep saying how helpful these are.

I'm also not a fan of thinning threads out and opening other, more specified ones. Like many others here, I constantly have the Marvel, DC and General threads open and those are the ones I check regularly. Other threads that have been "outsourced" like the shelf porn one or the European comics thread I mostly forget about and only remember to look at them once a month or so. To me, three threads is more than enough to keep open on my devices all the time.

EDIT:

Oh, and to spite IST is selling the Marvel Covers Artist's Edition for $75:

http://www.instocktrades.com/TP/IDW/...NET)/MAY140474

[NZ_InFerno]

Bah! If the bargains are no longer allowed on this thread, I'm kind of done here. I've been reading this thread in one iteration or another (almost) daily since the big amazon glitch of 2010. Remember the $10.50 Stand Omnibus? Or how about in the old days the daily deals with thwipster.com? Kind of silly to have another whole thread to keep up with but whatever.

Agreed. Maybe we could get some leeway here? As historically, before the big CBR crash, deals were often included in this the progenitor of this thread.

Since the CBR reset there is now a whole forum for Collected Editions, not just the one thread. Rather than having pages of B&N codes, deals are now in one place.

Also a sad reminder that it's been so long since there were any actual deals ;(

Is that an official MOD sanctioned statement? If not I don't know why the bargains can't also be cross posted here.

But let's say it is a MOD order, it keeps the bargains concise and as long as the posts there are essentially bargains it's consecutive posts about deals. I expect it's likely to only be a strong thread for the next 6 weeks anyways as this is "DEAL TIME" at it's peak. Resuming bargain posts in the other Omni/HC threads once the New Year is underway as the Bargains & Deal opportunities above 50% off come fewer.

This person understands.

I dislike having a new thread to check.

Agreed. A separate thread for deals is not necessary.

I'm sorry you feel that way.

Yeah, that's how I'm feeling. A very small vocal minority have been trying to segregate conversation here for years and we've always rebuffed them. This thread has always been a small community in and of itself. I don't have any interest in traipsing through 5 different threads to get the same info I used to get from one. All this change does is make this thread less useful and less of a community. We've been doing our thing for almost 5 year or so now. What possible reason could there be to keep people from posting about deals in the single biggest collected editions thread? I know that for some reason mods here seem bizarrely desperate to force people to browse thread after thread after thread for the info that was previously contained in a single one, but this thread has long been the hold out. This is a damn shame.

Since the CBR reboot and multiple bannings, which you should be very familiar with, the Collected editions part is more popular than it ever was. The Community is in the forum, if you ventured outside this thread you would see that. The "vocal minority" only reads the Marvel thread.

Hey Nz_InFerno and SJNeal, what are the chances of putting the Bargains issue to a democratic vote? It could be similar to the "banner" on the DC Collected Thread re:Omnibus, Absolute or Deluxe.

I could be wrong but I believe the majority of us would prefer that we had the option to talk about bargains on this Thread.

I don't envision the discussion changing that much tbh, just that's there is less asking for codes, or repeated posts etc and an easier way to find a deal than scrolling through multiple pages of discussion on various topics. I'm sure you guys can work out how to make posts on topic. After all we've been doing it for years

We will give it a trial till the new year, then will see what the community thinks.

[Spirou]

Have to disagree with most disagreements. It's a MARVEL collection thread, if any deals from B&N, coupons, Amazon glitches mostly don't concern only Marvel, for me it's quite obviously a good choice to put these bargains in a dedicated thread. Does it bother me if somebody puts a good link or info here? No. Would this info also help DC or general fans? Then it would be better to put it (also) elsewhere. Do we have to have tons of B&N coupons or tax discussions on a Marvel thread? It doesn't feel right unless these coupons apply only for Marvel books. Just my opinion, I'm OK with any other opinion. Good points here & there...