Marvel Collected Editions

**Virani** · 10-01-2015, 10:41 AM

Hmm thanks! Think I'll go look for that single issue then and see if someone else wants it..

**grahamgg** · 10-01-2015, 10:47 AM

Originally Posted by Hellboydce

If I thought the Onslaught omni was ****, if a struggled to get through the Infinity Gauntlet omni and if I'm finding the Busiek/Perez Avenger oh so meh, is it worth me cracking open my sealed AOA omni, or should I just sell it?

In that case sell it. FAST.

Originally Posted by Virani

I recently acquired the X-Men by Claremont and Lee omnibus volume 1. I thought this was supposed to be a good read, but I really don't like it. Did anyone else have this?

Lots & lots of folks have that opinion. 3/4 of the books reprinted in this Omni are horrid and actually don't even feature the X-Men. It's all D-listers like Forge & Polaris and Dr. MacTaggert running around while the X-Men are nowhere to be found.

Originally Posted by TomSlick

Yes, that was a pretty bad-ass issue. And the only decent one in that mess.

I actually thought the first few issues were ok, till they left the Outback and things fell apart. Why did no one miss the fact that Longshot vanished? It was never explained or even mentioned on panel that I can recall. He's here one minute, then POOF! Gone the next. The issue where Wolverine was crucified then saved by Jubilee & Gateway were pretty good and had some dark, sketchy artwork by Silvestri. I liked those. After the team went thru the Seige Perilous (which was the most comic-booky plot device ever created), it all sort of fell apart into one giant 2 year long mess. The re-intro of Psylocke during Acts of Vengeance was OK, not great. The whole thing with kid-Storm & the intro of Gambit was silly.

**TomSlick** · 10-01-2015, 01:23 PM

Originally Posted by grahamgg

In that case sell it. FAST.

I actually thought the first few issues were ok, till they left the Outback and things fell apart. Why did no one miss the fact that Longshot vanished? It was never explained or even mentioned on panel that I can recall. He's here one minute, then POOF! Gone the next. The issue where Wolverine was crucified then saved by Jubilee & Gateway were pretty good and had some dark, sketchy artwork by Silvestri. I liked those. After the team went thru the Seige Perilous (which was the most comic-booky plot device ever created), it all sort of fell apart into one giant 2 year long mess. The re-intro of Psylocke during Acts of Vengeance was OK, not great. The whole thing with kid-Storm & the intro of Gambit was silly.

Those are probably readable, but I think I pretty much gave up on Claremont around issue # 220 or so or sometime after Fall of the Mutants and I wasn't even keen on that. Of course by then I think the Marvel brass were "helping" with the stories. Over the years, I'd go back and kind of read the gaps but those were really, really bad times for the X-Men. In fact, I don't think I really started reading them much again until Morrison came aboard. Since then, it's been off and on.

**FlashingSabre** · 10-01-2015, 02:33 PM

Originally Posted by TomSlick

Those are probably readable, but I think I pretty much gave up on Claremont around issue # 220 or so or sometime after Fall of the Mutants and I wasn't even keen on that. Of course by then I think the Marvel brass were "helping" with the stories. Over the years, I'd go back and kind of read the gaps but those were really, really bad times for the X-Men. In fact, I don't think I really started reading them much again until Morrison came aboard. Since then, it's been off and on.

I haven't read past DoFP yet, but I can't imagine even the worst of Chris Claremont equalling the sheer level of trash that the entire franchise has been in since Whedon left. Kieron Gillen and Chris Yost excepted, of course.

**TomSlick** · 10-01-2015, 03:22 PM

Originally Posted by FlashingSabre

I haven't read past DoFP yet, but I can't imagine even the worst of Chris Claremont equalling the sheer level of trash that the entire franchise has been in since Whedon left. Kieron Gillen and Chris Yost excepted, of course.

LOL, believe me, you'd think Alan Moore had been writing X-Men the past 10 years once you start reading the turds Claremont and those that followed put out during the 90s.

**Iron Fist** · 10-01-2015, 03:47 PM

Originally Posted by TomSlick

LOL, believe me, you'd think Alan Moore had been writing X-Men the past 10 years once you start reading the turds Claremont and those that followed put out during the 90s.

And everyone wonders why Marvel would rather bring in the Inhumans xD

But I agree that good runs of X-Men are few and far between, most are just barely tolerable, barely.

**AJpyro** · 10-01-2015, 03:55 PM

Originally Posted by FlashingSabre

I haven't read past DoFP yet, but I can't imagine even the worst of Chris Claremont equalling the sheer level of trash that the entire franchise has been in since Whedon left. Kieron Gillen and Chris Yost excepted, of course.

WHat stories besides x-force did Yost make?

**Hellboydce** · 10-01-2015, 03:58 PM

Originally Posted by legion_quest

Sell it, and then stop reading anything you dont already know you will like. Being adventurous with your money is not paying off for you!

These are words of wisdom

**Iron Fist** · 10-01-2015, 04:01 PM

Originally Posted by AJpyro

WHat stories besides x-force did Yost make?

Second coming, world's apart, marvel now's amazing x-men and some of the X-Men cosmic stuff like emporer vulcan and kingbreaker. I think he also did a Psylocke mini series.

**AJpyro** · 10-01-2015, 05:28 PM

Originally Posted by Storm

Second coming, world's apart, marvel now's amazing x-men and some of the X-Men cosmic stuff like emporer vulcan and kingbreaker. I think he also did a Psylocke mini series.

That's a good list though i didn't read most of them yet. Btw anyone read Xmen first to Last?

**FlashingSabre** · 10-01-2015, 05:43 PM

Originally Posted by AJpyro

WHat stories besides x-force did Yost make?

I was referring to X-Men proper, Amazing X-Men specifically. A lot of the side books have been really good the last couple years, the main books have been the bad ones.

**FlashingSabre** · 10-01-2015, 05:44 PM

Originally Posted by TomSlick

LOL, believe me, you'd think Alan Moore had been writing X-Men the past 10 years once you start reading the turds Claremont and those that followed put out during the 90s.

Hey man, I liked some of the Lobdell stuff. I'm sure it will be passable, at least.

And if nothing else, its not Austen. Or the satanic being known as Bendys, cursed be his name.

**FlashingSabre** · 10-01-2015, 05:49 PM

If anyone happens to be curious why I hate Bendys so much:

He took a dump on Rich Rider
He took a dump on Hank Pym
He took a dump on Scarlet Witch
He took a dump on the Wasp
He took a dump on Iceman's romantic history
He took a dump on the Beast's reputation
He took a dump on the entire GotG
And he put Wolverine on the Avengers.

END OF RANT

**Dayle88** · 10-01-2015, 06:05 PM

I wouldn't of necessarily liked Wolverine and Spider-man on the New Avengers if they weren't so hilarious together.

**The_Dark_Knight** · 10-01-2015, 06:21 PM

Originally Posted by FlashingSabre

If anyone happens to be curious why I hate Bendys so much:

He took a dump on Rich Rider
He took a dump on Hank Pym
He took a dump on Scarlet Witch
He took a dump on the Wasp
He took a dump on Iceman's romantic history
He took a dump on the Beast's reputation
He took a dump on the entire GotG
And he put Wolverine on the Avengers.

END OF RANT

If anyone is curious why I love Bendis:

He elevated Daredevil
He created Jessica Jones
He wrote The Confession
He gave us lasting disruption in X-Men status quo providing a decade worth of great stories
He wrote the greatest Spidey run of all time
He reinvigorated Luke Cage
He created Powers
He's got an incredible ear for dialogue

END OF NEWTON'S THIRD LAW

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