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    The creators wanted to go for a different and more Friday Night Lights vibe with Superman so that meant taking a step away from Metropolis and adding more to ground the narrative and the casts' personal problems on-top of the Superman stuff.

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    The first season was exceptional. The grounded take on the decline of small towns and how they deal with that in a Superman show was unlike anything done with the character and most takes on TV in general. After that, the show kind of went downhill. The Bizarro stuff was not handled well, IMO. Especially given how well grounded the show was when it started. And when they gave Lois cancer in the third season I just noped out at that point. Too close to home. They seem to just want this version of Superman to suffer. There are some great ideas in the show. Giving the boys a half sister from another Earth. Seeing Lana move on with her life and start a family instead of just being "the other woman" in Clark's past. Giving the kid with problems the powers while the popular kid didn't get any was also a good take. Making his mother his connection to Krypton instead of his father also worked given the way they did it.

    But making the show more or less a Smallville sequel I think limited what they could do with it. Smallville worked because most of the super powered stuff centered around the meteor shower that brought Clark to Earth. They didn't have that here. So you had to come up with an explanation for why all this weird stuff kept happening in this small town. I think that's a fair criticism. They should have stayed in Metropolis. Or at the very least, have all the superhero stuff revolve around Metropolis. I also would have loved to have seen more of his rogues gallery that gets under utilized in other versions. He's been around for 20 years in this universe. Where is this version of Parasite? Where is this version of Toyman? Where is this version of Brainiac? It's just the same three villains all over again. Zod (more or less), Bizarro, and Luthor. Who seems less impressive in this version than in others.

    I'm glad they made it a different world than the original Arrow-verse. The aesthetic just didn't line up with the mood of this show. I feel like they had so much potential they just squandered. This could have been a great show. It just was afraid to step too far outside it's own comfort zone. That might have been a budget thing, that might have been a lack of ideas thing. I don't know. I think it spent too much time trying to be bleak instead of using the Superman mythos properly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by superduperman View Post
    The first season was exceptional. The grounded take on the decline of small towns and how they deal with that in a Superman show was unlike anything done with the character and most takes on TV in general. After that, the show kind of went downhill. The Bizarro stuff was not handled well, IMO. Especially given how well grounded the show was when it started.

    ...They seem to just want this version of Superman to suffer.
    I feel the opposite on s1/2. I found season one a slow, miserable, joyless slog (except maybe the last few episodes), where Superman/Clark, and those around him, felt like abject failures who spent most their time wallowing. I really had to power through it.

    I wouldn't have watched more except for the promise of Bizarro, who I love as a concept, which was done so ridiculously I couldn't help but love it. Tal-Rho was a genuine pleasure in season 2.

    S2 still had a lot of CW melodramatic teenage drama, but I had to fast forwarded a lot of that.

    I haven't brought myself to try 3 yet, as I'd heard about the cancer thing and I just don't really want to watch that. I doubt they'd do it well, or make it particularly entertaining.
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    "*sigh* I hoped it was for the miracle."

    Dan Watters' Azrael was incredible, a constant delight and perhaps too good for this world (but not the Forth). For the love of St. Dumas, DC, give us more!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by exile001 View Post
    I feel the opposite on s1/2. I found season one a slow, miserable, joyless slog (except maybe the last few episodes), where Superman/Clark, and those around him, felt like abject failures who spent most their time wallowing. I really had to power through it.

    I wouldn't have watched more except for the promise of Bizarro, who I love as a concept, which was done so ridiculously I couldn't help but love it. Tal-Rho was a genuine pleasure in season 2.

    S2 still had a lot of CW melodramatic teenage drama, but I had to fast forwarded a lot of that.

    I haven't brought myself to try 3 yet, as I'd heard about the cancer thing and I just don't really want to watch that. I doubt they'd do it well, or make it particularly entertaining.
    I've thought to myself that this is the one version of Superman that you don't want to be given all the crap they put him through.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vordan View Post
    Looks like someone is dressed for a party...or funeral? Though Lois would probably be more covered up for that.

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    Thought they tore down the farmhouse. Guess they built a set for the season.
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    Quote Originally Posted by superduperman View Post
    I've thought to myself that this is the one version of Superman that you don't want to be given all the crap they put him through.
    Oh, 100%. I really feel for the guy (and Lois), so I guess it is eliciting emotions at least.
    "Has Sariel summoned you here, Azrael? Have you come to witness the miracle of your brethren arriving on Earth?"

    "I WILL MIX THE ASHES OF YOUR BONES WITH SALT AND USE THEM TO ENSURE THE EARTH THE TEMPLARS TILLED NEVER BEARS FRUIT AGAIN!"

    "*sigh* I hoped it was for the miracle."

    Dan Watters' Azrael was incredible, a constant delight and perhaps too good for this world (but not the Forth). For the love of St. Dumas, DC, give us more!!!

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