Oh, he doesn't *need* it. I'm just saying that if we want to build to Lex and not just have him be out there, him having been in the background this whole time and even we as the audience didn't know it until like movie 2 or so could be a great way to do that. It shelves Lex without shelving him. But that doesn't have to be how it's played in the slightest.
That's my thinking. There has to be someone or something there that *doesn't* change that's causing this mindset. That, or just the way these corporate idiots are educated makes them uniquely unqualified to have any hand in Superman... which, honestly, wouldn't surprise me, either.
That's a good point. I guess we'll find out soon enough, lolI think Gunn is a good choice for a DC godfather....at least potentially. He's proven himself with C-listers and made guys like Peacemaker and Rocket/Groot household names but I wonder how he'll handle the big guys, the giant archetypes who aren't strictly "characters" and have one foot in the side of modern mythology archetypes. Gotta handle them differently, they can't just act like "people" you have to keep the symbolism in mind too. Much like Geoff Johns we may discover that Gunn is a wizard with characters nobody knows but drops the ball with the big fish.
Definitely. That's something the Broze Age seemed to do well with Superman, too. I mean, I feel we could certainly make a Post-Crisis movie and make it work, too, but even doing that properly is something I'm not sure they can handle. So hopefully they figure something else out that's solid for general audiences.One thing that gives me hope is how Gunn tapped into the quiet tragedy of Rocket. That's a character who, on the surface, is just a funny, lovable little furball but Gunn recognized the horror and the pain there and that's what made Rocket work, that gave him depth and pathos. I'm hopeful that he'll also recognize the same kind of duality in DC's big names. That's often the key to those guys, and people like Maggin were well aware of the tonal balance the characters need in order to work effectively. I think Gunn has the ability to see all that, if he looks for it. Not sure if Zaslav gets it, or if he just wants post-Crisis-y, flawless, living-that-perfect-life space jesus.
lol, well.. true. I mean across DC - so all the characters. If they did a solid block of 5 budget-friendly films a year for 4 years, that would go a long ways toward regaining trust if the stories are there, and even put them more on the path to the "Marvel money" they really want.Well, probably not *20* but definitely more than a couple. I'd think a string of 3-4 successful films would be enough to start generating some goodwill and undoing the brand damage. Basically the first year, maybe two, of Gunn's regime should be considered handicapped by DC's reputation and box office projections should be lowered.
I think that's on The Rock. Most likely, they thought that all of these announcements together would help "Black Adam" do well enough to cement a sequel, and then he'd really be set. Or if not just that, then the general sentiment in support of Cavill + that would do it. Plus, it was a new group, and they may have said "hey, we're shopping for scripts now, so you might as well announce while we get this sorted to show how much people want you to make it easier to pitch". But yeah, I don't think he'll want much to do with them for some time - and if they do want him back for a cameo or something, they pay through the nose. That's certainly what I'd do after all this.I definitely feel bad for Cavill, this is a role he loves and he so desperately wanted a chance to do it right. But I don't know how the hell anyone convinced him to go public with his return as Clark before a contract was in place. That's just foolish, especially considering how WB's treated him in the past.
Agreed.T-shirt Superman and that updated Golden Age social crusader vibe....that's precisely what the character, and the world, needs. Which is why I don't expect to get it.
Jon Peters didn't want him to fly, but that's a whole other thing.. LOL!If Gunn is a big Morrison fan, maybe we'll get an homage to the t-shirt stuff, a brief origin scene or something, but would WB in their infinite ignorance really make a whole movie about a Superman who can't fly, won't be space jesus, and shoves his nose into real world concerns? If we get an adaptation of Morrison's first arc I'll be the happiest son of a bitch on earth but I'm not holding my breath.
Oh, definitely. They're always well behind the curve, without a clue.
Honestly, i think more of these could work than it may seem - but requires some creativity.. and who knows if they have the brains for that, so you might be right.
Interesting... I like it!