The Beyonder (pre-retcon) vs The Great Darkness (dark crisis)

[daBronzeBomma]

The most powerful antagonist Marvel ever created vs the latest and greatest existential threat in DC.

Who wins?

[Beadle]

I love how ‘Final’ Crisis was several crises ago.

They might as well have just called it ‘A Crisis’.

[Sharpandpointies]

Feats for the Great Darkness?

[Cthulhu_of_R'lyeh]

Feats for the Great Darkness?

It gets real dark outside.

[Sharpandpointies]

It gets real dark outside.

...gonna need more than that to deal with Demented Donnie.

[Nik Hasta]

From incredibly superficial research, it's the whole "Shadow/Dark Reflection of God" thing that has been knocking around in DC since the old Swamp Thing days.

Supposedly it is equal but opposite to the Presence.

And boy, DC is supremely addicted to crises.

Like, guys, just focus on like a planetary thing or even a system wide thing. Not everything needs to have the uni/multi/omniverse on the line.

[Sharpandpointies]

From incredibly superficial research, it's the whole "Shadow/Dark Reflection of God" thing that has been knocking around in DC since the old Swamp Thing days.

Supposedly it is equal but opposite to the Presence.

I'm guessing we don't have any feats, yet. And somehow it will lose to beings on the level of Superman. Likely due to some macguffin.

I realize the Presence is often considered more powerful than PR-Beyonder, but really, going to need feats in this case because this is not the Presence.

And boy, DC is supremely addicted to crises.

Like, guys, just focus on like a planetary thing or even a system wide thing. Not everything needs to have the uni/multi/omniverse on the line.

It's a tad annoying, yes.

[Dark Soul # 7]

And boy, DC is supremely addicted to crises.

Like, guys, just focus on like a planetary thing or even a system wide thing. Not everything needs to have the uni/multi/omniverse on the line.

If they don't do a omni-multi-universal thing then they can't reboot everything. And if they can't reboot everything then they can't fix all the things that they screwed up in the previous poorly planned crisis event.

[Beadle]

I realize the Presence is often considered more powerful than PR-Beyonder, but really, going to need feats in this case because this is not the Presence.

Really? Because I always thought we put the Presence on the level of TOAA, the supreme being from the Marvel Multiverse, but that Soul-Glo Jumpsuit Donny Osmond was above TOAA, being the sum-total of a multiverse bigger than the Marvel Multiverse.

[Sharpandpointies]

Really? Because I always thought we put the Presence on the level of TOAA, the supreme being from the Marvel Multiverse, but that Soul-Glo Jumpsuit Donny Osmond was above TOAA, being the sum-total of a multiverse bigger than the Marvel Multiverse.

There might have been some indications somewhere that TOAA was stronger? Honestly, I can't remember.

I could be wrong, and you correct. ^_^ I've never actually paid a whole lot to supposed omnipotent types, though the Beyonder at least has some feats.

Anyway, I'd still need feats for The Great Darkness, here. ^_^

[Cthulhu_of_R'lyeh]

I'm waiting for DC: Identity Crisis

[Beadle]

I'm waiting for DC: Identity Crisis

That’s a thing.

It’s when Sue Dibny died because Jean Loring went tap-dancing on her brain, and everyone discovered that Batman had mind-fucked most of the JLA to make them forget what they did to rapey Dr Light. Or something. I forget.

Edit: the cover…

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[Beadle]

They’re only missing ‘Crisis of Confidence’, ‘Midlife Crisis’ and ‘Cost of Living Crisis’.

[Sharpandpointies]

That’s a thing.

It’s when Sue Dibny died because Jean Loring went tap-dancing on her brain, and everyone discovered that Batman had mind-fucked most of the JLA to make them forget what they did to rapey Dr Light. Or something. I forget.

Edit: the cover…

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Oh, maaaaan...thanks for the reminder. <-- Not actually a thank you. ^_^

Was Zatana, I think, who made everyone forget, and Batman got all mad about it because he was one of the people she made forget? Somethingsomething like that?

[Beadle]

Oh, maaaaan...thanks for the reminder. <-- Not actually a thank you. ^_^

Was Zatana, I think, who made everyone forget, and Batman got all mad about it because he was one of the people she made forget? Somethingsomething like that?

Yeah, that’s right.

But the main takeaway from this was Jean Loring leaving tiny footprints on Sue Dibny’s brain.

Tiny footprints.

That was actually a thing that happened.