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    Default Daredevil vs Black Panther

    Unarmed and in street clothes.

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    The one that has radar sense and higher martial arts prowess and bullet time reflexes (unless BP has gotten a big upgrade I never saw).

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    Same. Barring Panther having gotten some huge upgrade recently, Matt outspeeds him by a comfortable margin, can predict what he is doing to some extent, is potentially more skilled, and easily strong enough to damage him or poke him with his fingers and do his little magic pressure point trick.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sharpandpointies View Post
    Same. Barring Panther having gotten some huge upgrade recently, Matt outspeeds him by a comfortable margin, can predict what he is doing to some extent, is potentially more skilled, and easily strong enough to damage him or poke him with his fingers and do his little magic pressure point trick.

    TChalla is stronger and just as fast probably as Daredevil due to the heart shaped herb. People following this current run of TChalla by a horrible writer are ignoring previous feats. Here is TChalla handling not only Daredevil, but two others while in street clothes. I’m not sure how people aren’t aware of this showing in Marvel Knights. Clearly comes across as bias to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vanguard View Post
    TChalla is stronger and just as fast probably as Daredevil due to the heart shaped herb. People following this current run of TChalla by a horrible writer are ignoring previous feats. Here is TChalla handling not only Daredevil, but two others while in street clothes. I’m not sure how people aren’t aware of this showing in Marvel Knights. Clearly comes across as bias to me.

    Actual feats for him being a bullet-timer, now?

    And by that, I mean actual bullet-time feats, not aim-dodging with an attempt to pass it off as Bullet-timing.

    Barring that, actual superspeed feats that we can compare to bullet-timing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sharpandpointies View Post
    Actual feats for him being a bullet-timer, now?.

    Well I think he showed he’s plenty fast enough in the scan I already posted. But this one is in the last four years or so.



    Here’s a post by Hickman years ago explaining that he’s low superhuman fast. He’s also shown he’s fast enough to tag Spiderman.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vanguard View Post
    Well I think he showed he’s plenty fast enough in the scan I already posted. But this one is in the last four years or so.



    Here’s a post by Hickman years ago explaining that he’s low superhuman fast. He’s also shown he’s fast enough to tag Spiderman.

    That... looks like a clear instance of the BP's suit blocking the bullet, and not dodging of any sort.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vanguard View Post
    TChalla is stronger and just as fast probably as Daredevil due to the heart shaped herb. People following this current run of TChalla by a horrible writer are ignoring previous feats. Here is TChalla handling not only Daredevil, but two others while in street clothes. I’m not sure how people aren’t aware of this showing in Marvel Knights. Clearly comes across as bias to me.

    Coming into a thread just to accuse people of bias isn't a good, just fyi.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guy1 View Post
    Coming into a thread just to accuse people of bias isn't a good, just fyi.

    Well when I see no one coming to his defense, that’s my first impression. Not knowing the facts isn’t good either. I also have the scan of TChalla tagging Spiderman, but the above posted was more recent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vanguard View Post
    Well when I see no one coming to his defense, that’s my first impression. Not knowing the facts isn’t good either. I also have the scan of TChalla tagging Spiderman, but the above posted was more recent.
    You could've just posted the feats without insulting anyone or accusing them of not knowing facts.

    What we're looking for are high end consistent feats that match up with character portrayal, based on which, Spider-Man really should be blitzing dudes that tag him all the time. The question is whether or not those feats are allowable due to matching the abilities of both characters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guy1 View Post
    You could've just posted the feats without insulting anyone or accusing them of not knowing facts.

    You’re taking bias as an insult. I think it’s a stretch. I saw two people backing Daredevil and no one making the slightest case for TChalla.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vanguard View Post
    You’re taking bias as an insult. I think it’s a stretch. I saw two people backing Daredevil and no one making the slightest case for TChalla.
    Vanguard, you're the one who came in here accusing people of bias and not knowing facts instead of just posting feats for T'Challa in the thread. If you saw nobody making a case for him? Then just do it yourself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guy1 View Post
    Vanguard, you're the one who came in here accusing people of bias and not knowing facts instead of just posting feats for T'Challa in the thread. If you saw nobody making a case for him? Then just do it yourself.
    Sometimes that’s not enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vanguard View Post
    Sometimes that’s not enough.
    Yeah, we run on feats here. Debating in good faith and presenting character feats is how Rumbles operates.

    I'm sorry if you don't like it but that's how we operate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guy1 View Post
    Yeah, we run on feats here. Debating in good faith and presenting character feats is how Rumbles operates.

    I'm sorry if you don't like it but that's how we operate.

    I’m aware of how things operate on the majority of battle boards. You seem to be the one that wants to argue, I don’t. I posted feats, and what happened? That’s my point.......,,

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