Originally Posted by
Pendaran
Do you feel that you have offered full context to this feat?
Because again by the standard you are offering for performances and the details you give for them, Doom defeated the Beyonders and salvaged something from the multiversal collapse, T'challa failed to do so.
Also, by that standard, Doom captured Galactus and turned him into a power source.
Also, by that standard, Doom power jacked a Dormammu who had otherwise taken control of Ego the Living Planet, which he had done more or less from Doom manipulating him.
But you feel the thing you have said is more significant? What is your justification for saying so beyond "it is because I say so"?
But setting all that aside, why is "Doom power jacked someone vastly more powerful than Galactus at the time" less impressive than "cured Galactus' hunger". Your entire previous argument centered on "well Panther beat someone Doom couldn't", and now your arguement is "Doom beat someone vastly more powerful than Galactus that one time, so clearly Panther doing something to Galactus makes that not count." What do you feel is the internal comparative logic there?
To be clear, someone said this, I'll bold the relevant part:
Your reply is this:
Now, the better thing to note would be, that post retcon Beyonder makes Doom's performance ultimately less impressive because, you know, retcons, but you can't really note that and still be consistent with anything you're now saying, since the rest of your argument is now "well Pre crisis Batman...", so I guess we're on "whatever version of the character here that lets me say the characters I want win is the version we are using", according to your posts.
I mean, the thread didn't specify pre crisis Batman and going by board things we use the default version of the character, for one thing, but we are where we are, I guess.