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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperX View Post
    Jon on the other got his powers super early,absorbs faster and more energy than a full kryptonian,and becomes even more powerful.you could "potentially" link his fast aging to this also,and could have him overly goodie too shoes golden boy with him trying to be what he thinks a perfect hero should be even when he is actually younger than he looks,plus you can have him have moments of childlike anger.

    Cool huh?
    Good suggestion. Jon's origin definitely needs tweaking, as he shouldn't even be born until after Conner becomes Superboy since Lois and Clark only married after Death of Superman, which is where Conner debuted. As such, Jon couldn't possibly have been 11 years old when Bendis aged him up to 18. He'd have been no older than 5 (otherwise Conner and the rest of Young Justice get aged up too much - they should be seven years older than Damian, which is about 22 now, but Jon being 11 would, allowing for Lois's pregnancy, make Conner 12 years older than when he debuted - about 28). Accelerated aging would fix that. Kryptonians have long lifespans, so it becomes a moot point when Jon is an adult anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Super_kon View Post
    Teen Titans. She had a run on it after Conner returned in Legion of 3 worlds.
    What didn't you like about her Kon?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NOCTPHOENIX View Post
    What didn't you like about her Kon?
    Fist bumping Bart after he believed his teammates died.
    Swapping Cassie for Ravager romance was ill timed as He had just returned, and had a great story with Cassie in Adventure Comics.
    The dialogue felt like cue cards.
    Mainly after Kon found his way back in the world, his new lease on life (after getting over his clone angst) in his first team book was to hold back, not criticize the leader ( then have that leader break up with you for what she believed to be criticism), and to fade in the background.
    None of that fits Kon-El or Conner Kent, and after him being out of comics for a while, and seeing the merger of them in Adventure Comics, I was highly disappointed to see him reduced to that In a premier team book.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Super_kon View Post
    Fist bumping Bart after he believed his teammates died.
    Swapping Cassie for Ravager romance was ill timed as He had just returned, and had a great story with Cassie in Adventure Comics.
    The dialogue felt like cue cards.
    Mainly after Kon found his way back in the world, his new lease on life (after getting over his clone angst) in his first team book was to hold back, not criticize the leader ( then have that leader break up with you for what she believed to be criticism), and to fade in the background.
    None of that fits Kon-El or Conner Kent, and after him being out of comics for a while, and seeing the merger of them in Adventure Comics, I was highly disappointed to see him reduced to that In a premier team book.
    Hmmm maybe retcon it so Cassie and Kon have a kid?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Super_kon View Post
    Fist bumping Bart after he believed his teammates died.
    Swapping Cassie for Ravager romance was ill timed as He had just returned, and had a great story with Cassie in Adventure Comics.
    The dialogue felt like cue cards.
    Mainly after Kon found his way back in the world, his new lease on life (after getting over his clone angst) in his first team book was to hold back, not criticize the leader ( then have that leader break up with you for what she believed to be criticism), and to fade in the background.
    None of that fits Kon-El or Conner Kent, and after him being out of comics for a while, and seeing the merger of them in Adventure Comics, I was highly disappointed to see him reduced to that In a premier team book.
    Didn't Cassie and Kon break up due to wanting different thing and Kon initiated it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by marhawkman View Post
    Hmmm maybe retcon it so Cassie and Kon have a kid?
    That would probably eliminate Cassie outright for a while. Look at the past - Donna wasn't active on the Titans when Robert Long was born - and she only returned full time after Terry got custody.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Digifiend View Post
    That would probably eliminate Cassie outright for a while. Look at the past - Donna wasn't active on the Titans when Robert Long was born - and she only returned full time after Terry got custody.
    Realistically... enh, it'd take up some of her time but not all of it. Depends on who she can get to babysit I guess?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NOCTPHOENIX View Post
    Didn't Cassie and Kon break up due to wanting different thing and Kon initiated it?
    Nah it was Cassie that initiated it. She said she couldn’t be team leader ( which Henderson focused on ) and be with him at the same time. Conner just read the writing on the wall. To be fair it was in Krul’s run, but Henderson forced that dynamic in her run. Especially with the entire team addressing Cassie as “Boss”.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Digifiend View Post
    Good suggestion. Jon's origin definitely needs tweaking, as he shouldn't even be born until after Conner becomes Superboy since Lois and Clark only married after Death of Superman, which is where Conner debuted. As such, Jon couldn't possibly have been 11 years old when Bendis aged him up to 18. He'd have been no older than 5 (otherwise Conner and the rest of Young Justice get aged up too much - they should be seven years older than Damian, which is about 22 now, but Jon being 11 would, allowing for Lois's pregnancy, make Conner 12 years older than when he debuted - about 28). Accelerated aging would fix that. Kryptonians have long lifespans, so it becomes a moot point when Jon is an adult anyway.
    Remember how superman died and this new one came to our earth with jon kent between flashpoint and rebirth

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    That's no longer canon and hasn't been since Superman Reborn.

    Man of Tomorrow #6 is out.
    spoilers:
    Cosmoteers end up arrested by Green Lanterns. Conner teleports back home to the Kent Farm where the family are waiting for him and give him his new jacket - the whole book was set before Green Lantern #1 and Action Comics #1051.
    end of spoilers
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    How simple a explanation can you all handle,just say kons DNA is slow,Jon's is fast,and thats why kon got his powers slow,and Jon got them way early,how kon gets weak,and Jon gets more powerful,how kon looks so young even though he is older,and Jon looks older even though he is younger.simple as hell,and of course DC and the realnanal fans won't accept this.

    This could also explain how kon acts like a 90s kid instead of a present day kid,and why Jon acts like a goodie two shoes and not a regular person.

    Kon doesn't have weakling kryptonian powers,it's just he gets tired more,and he has to eat and sleep to.

    Tactile telekinesis,new 52 is probably the most powerful form of it ,and what man of tomorrow mini TTK look like,so whenever anybody calls him weak it's hilarious,just because they don't want to overshadow other characters by having him show off all his powers doesn't mean he doesn't have them and isn't the most powerful.
    Created from 2 of the greatest men,made with 2 powersets thst are both SUPER,and has 2 cool asf looks and attitudes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Digifiend View Post
    Good suggestion. Jon's origin definitely needs tweaking, as he shouldn't even be born until after Conner becomes Superboy since Lois and Clark only married after Death of Superman, which is where Conner debuted. As such, Jon couldn't possibly have been 11 years old when Bendis aged him up to 18. He'd have been no older than 5 (otherwise Conner and the rest of Young Justice get aged up too much - they should be seven years older than Damian, which is about 22 now, but Jon being 11 would, allowing for Lois's pregnancy, make Conner 12 years older than when he debuted - about 28). Accelerated aging would fix that. Kryptonians have long lifespans, so it becomes a moot point when Jon is an adult anyway.
    My suggestion is something I've mentioned before: restore a tweaked version of his original origin. The end of Doomsday Clock introduced 'Earth-52' based on the New 52. So Lois and Clark are abducted by Brainiac and led to believe their Earth is destroyed, they then escape to Earth-52 with Jon, spend a few years raising their child, and then in some revised untold story, escape back to their Earth, which is similar but not the same as the pre-Flashpoint Earth. Thanks to time/dimension differences, only a year or two has passed.

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    Thsts all well and good for Jon,but what about kon?
    Created from 2 of the greatest men,made with 2 powersets thst are both SUPER,and has 2 cool asf looks and attitudes.

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    Conners DNA might be slow,but his TTK is badass,and makes it a mute point
    Created from 2 of the greatest men,made with 2 powersets thst are both SUPER,and has 2 cool asf looks and attitudes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NOCTPHOENIX View Post
    Aside from that last one.....sorry (Bendis was Okay and his Kon was serviceable but overall it was meh).

    I'd suggest PAD Young Justice
    Thank you. Will check it out.

    Didn't he have a solo run back in the Day? I'm trying to get into the character

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