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    Quote Originally Posted by Lukmendes View Post
    I mean, it's a questionable choice to sexualize a character who was raped by her own father... And isn't the "Hallow's Eve" nonsense not her choice too?
    Extremely so, yes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jman27 View Post
    first step sell the body then develop the character
    Basically how they made Punchline popular over at DC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lukmendes View Post
    I mean, it's a questionable choice to sexualize a character who was raped by her own father... And isn't the "Hallow's Eve" nonsense not her choice too?
    well she wanted power to help Ben and she got it. dont worry her trauma will be used later on for her to be forgiven for her crimes like Harley
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frontier View Post
    Basically how they made Punchline popular over at DC.
    If I recall, her popularity also predicated on her being an even edgier Harley Quinn, with Harley being seduced by her sympathy for the Joker, perceiving him as a victim of a cruel society as embodied by Batman, while Punchline presented herself as being "in on the joke," and just as much of a nihilistic sociopath as the Joker himself, only updated for the social media age.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lukmendes View Post
    I mean, it's a questionable choice to sexualize a character who was raped by her own father... And isn't the "Hallow's Eve" nonsense not her choice too?
    Unfortunately, this type of thing isn't new to either of the Big 2. Evil That Men Do retconned Felicia into a rape victim and featured a lot of sexualized imagery of her. Starfire and Cheshire are two of DC's most (in)famous fanservice characters and were both slaves in their backstories.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Rat View Post
    https://www.cbr.com/spider-man-black-cat-worst-date/

    Hmm, takes place a few weeks after Dark Web, and still in winter (the DW finale time jumped to Spring, so who knows where they are at that point)
    Okay I'm going to admit, Peter going "I'm grown Felicia. I go where I want." and then it instantly cutting to him asking Aunt May was perfect

    I know some people don't like when Peter acts like his younger self, but Aunt May is Aunt May and that was a perfect jump cut.

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    Carlos Gomez Art:

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainUniverse View Post
    Carlos Gomez Art:

    Now who has the dump-truck ass ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frontier View Post
    Now who has the dump-truck ass ?
    I blame Aunt May's Wheatcakes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainUniverse View Post
    I blame Aunt May's Wheatcakes.
    LOL! Poor Aunt May!

    The truth is Felicia has been sneaking out to the nearest IHOP!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenixx9 View Post
    LOL! Poor Aunt May!

    The truth is Felicia has been sneaking out to the nearest IHOP!
    LOL!

    The X-Terminators must be going there as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainUniverse View Post
    LOL!

    The X-Terminators must be going there as well.

    I spit up my hot chocolate!

    But yeah, the word must have gotten out and also all of that weight training must be giving them a hunger.
    [Quote Originally Posted by Thor-El 10-15-2020 12:32 PM]

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainUniverse View Post
    LOL!

    The X-Terminators must be going there as well.

    great art but dialogue is wild
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frontier View Post
    Basically how they made Punchline popular over at DC.
    I don't even know that one... Checking out here, she's obsessed with the Joker, so that's a bad sign lol.

    Is she as whatever as she sounds like?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jman27 View Post
    well she wanted power to help Ben and she got it.
    Well, did she want the transformation? 'Cause she's acting very differently...

    dont worry her trauma will be used later on for her to be forgiven for her crimes like Harley
    Urgh, I don't like how you're probably right lol.

    Quote Originally Posted by Huntsman Spider View Post
    If I recall, her popularity also predicated on her being an even edgier Harley Quinn, with Harley being seduced by her sympathy for the Joker, perceiving him as a victim of a cruel society as embodied by Batman, while Punchline presented herself as being "in on the joke," and just as much of a nihilistic sociopath as the Joker himself, only updated for the social media age.
    Let me guess, she was created when DiDio was still around lol.

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Z View Post
    Unfortunately, this type of thing isn't new to either of the Big 2. Evil That Men Do retconned Felicia into a rape victim and featured a lot of sexualized imagery of her. Starfire and Cheshire are two of DC's most (in)famous fanservice characters and were both slaves in their backstories.
    At the very least, Starfire is okay with showing off her body to the point she got a job as a model.

    Janine got raped by her father, and she doesn't look like someone who likes showing off her body, and if Hallow's Eve shit is also not her choice, yeah... Questionable overall.

    Quote Originally Posted by Majesty View Post
    Okay I'm going to admit, Peter going "I'm grown Felicia. I go where I want." and then it instantly cutting to him asking Aunt May was perfect

    I know some people don't like when Peter acts like his younger self, but Aunt May is Aunt May and that was a perfect jump cut.
    He never really asked aunt May to go out though lol.

    Most of the older stories have him leaving and doing whatever, at most, she essentially forced him to stay home when she wanted him to go on a date with MJ, but that happened like, once.

    Think she also scolded him when he took too long to get home...

    But even then, overall he did what he wanted, and, y'know, he only had to obey her 'cause he lived on her house, and if he's not living there, yeah, he has no reason to ask, just warn her.

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainUniverse View Post
    I blame Aunt May's Wheatcakes.
    I see someone checks out the random drawings Frank Cho makes .

    Quote Originally Posted by Jman27 View Post
    great art but dialogue is wild
    It's fine for some characters to speak like this, but I think the black haired one there is Laura, and if so, it sounds weird for her to talk like that lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Z View Post
    Unfortunately, this type of thing isn't new to either of the Big 2. Evil That Men Do retconned Felicia into a rape victim and featured a lot of sexualized imagery of her. Starfire and Cheshire are two of DC's most (in)famous fanservice characters and were both slaves in their backstories.
    And even worse in Starfire's case, it was her own sister who sold her into slavery out of spite and set it up so that would be the only way to avoid getting their planet wiped out by their people's enemies. That said, yeah, I remember The Evil That Men Do. Extremely incongruous, come to think of it.

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainUniverse View Post
    Carlos Gomez Art:

    Quote Originally Posted by Frontier View Post
    Now who has the dump-truck ass ?
    Indeed, though with X-Terminators as illustrated by Gomez just concluded, it really makes me want him and Leah Williams to finish up Amazing Mary Jane, but as a Mary Jane/Black Cat team-up guest-starring the X-Terminators.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lukmendes View Post
    I don't even know that one... Checking out here, she's obsessed with the Joker, so that's a bad sign lol.

    Is she as whatever as she sounds like?



    Well, did she want the transformation? 'Cause she's acting very differently...



    Urgh, I don't like how you're probably right lol.



    Let me guess, she was created when DiDio was still around lol.



    At the very least, Starfire is okay with showing off her body to the point she got a job as a model.

    Janine got raped by her father, and she doesn't look like someone who likes showing off her body, and if Hallow's Eve shit is also not her choice, yeah... Questionable overall.



    He never really asked aunt May to go out though lol.

    Most of the older stories have him leaving and doing whatever, at most, she essentially forced him to stay home when she wanted him to go on a date with MJ, but that happened like, once.

    Think she also scolded him when he took too long to get home...

    But even then, overall he did what he wanted, and, y'know, he only had to obey her 'cause he lived on her house, and if he's not living there, yeah, he has no reason to ask, just warn her.



    I see someone checks out the random drawings Frank Cho makes .



    It's fine for some characters to speak like this, but I think the black haired one there is Laura, and if so, it sounds weird for her to talk like that lol.
    Most likely, since her big debut was in Joker War and that was in 2020.
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