DC Comics 2023 News/General Discussion

[Drako]

Ugh. I think we’re stuck with aged up Jon calling himself “Superman” as long as Tom Taylor is exclusive to DC.

I doubt they will ever turn him back to a kid, anyways.
At this point he has being a teenager for the same amount of time that he was a kid, if not more.

[Johnny]

I'd say it probably has more to do with the fact that if they turned him back into a kid they wouldn't be able to do certain things with him. And it would be odd anyway since Damian isn't a kid anymore either.

[Morgoth]

They obviously don't want to deal with little kids, and they want Jon and Damian to be older, so they can do more with them. That's why they didn't deage Jon despite the fact, that they were undoing some controversial decisions from previous regime, and claimed, that they're listening. And that's the same reason why Damian keeps getting older, he's already fifteen in Batman and Robin, if I'm not mistaken.

[LAWtoyoto 432]

It's not going to change, especially with them focusing on Jon bisexuality.
Sharing a mantle is already a huge thing for both Marvel and DC, we have Peter and Miles, Logan and Laura, Damian and Tim, Steve and Sam, Bruce and Jace, Barry and Wally. Apparently both DC and Marvel are okay with that.

Bruh, you forgot Clint and Kate, Jaimes and Ted, and even multiple Green Lanterns.

[Frontier]

They obviously don't want to deal with little kids, and they want Jon and Damian to be older, so they can do more with them. That's why they didn't deage Jon despite the fact, that they were undoing some controversial decisions from previous regime, and claimed, that they're listening. And that's the same reason why Damian keeps getting older, he's already fifteen in Batman and Robin, if I'm not mistaken.

Wally's kids will probably get a boost soon, I'm sure .

[Morgoth]

Bruh, you forgot Clint and Kate, Jaimes and Ted, and even multiple Green Lanterns.

Yeah, and there are also Matt and Elektra, and Eddie and Dylan, and Arthur and Jackson.
Jesus Christ, I didn't even realize how many characters are doing this.

[Psy-lock]

Jon is a teen but he's SuperMAN. Kara is an adult but she's SuperGIRL. Conner is at least as old as Jon but he's SuperBOY. Make it make sense

[Vordan]

https://twitter.com/TomTaylorMade/st...80137280913824

Amazing how hard DC has failed this character. At this point they clearly don’t even care at all about him and are just letting Taylor do what he wants while they focus on Clark to prep for Legacy. I think the only way to fix Jon is to kill him off and then do a radical revamp of him once he returns after keeping him dead for a while. Frankly though, I’d rather they focus on building up other members of the Superfamily like Kenan, Kara, and Kon.

[Digifiend]

Yeah, and there are also Matt and Elektra, and Eddie and Dylan, and Arthur and Jackson.
Jesus Christ, I didn't even realize how many characters are doing this.

Yeah, it's a lot.

Marvel:
Hawkeye - Clint Barton and Kate Bishop
Wolverine - James "Logan" Howlett and Laura Kinney
Spider-Man - Peter Parker and Miles Morales
Wasp - Janet Van Dyne and Nadia Van Dyne
Venom - Eddie Brock, Dylan Brock, and Natasha Romanoff (yeah, Black Widow's the new star of the Venom book)
Valkyrie - Jane Foster and Runa (Runa is based on the MCU Valkyrie)
Daredevil - Matt Murdock and Elektra Nachios
Captain America - Steve Rogers and Sam Wilson
Captain Marvel - Carol Danvers and Genis-Vell
Nova - Richard Rider and Sam Alexander
Ghost Rider - Johnny Blaze, Danny Ketch, and Robbie Reyes

DC:
Superman - Clark Kent and Jon Kent
Batman - Bruce Wayne and Jace Fox
Robin - Tim Drake and Damian Wayne
Wonder Girl - Cassie Sandsmark and Yara Flor
Batgirl - Barbara Gordon, Cassandra Cain, and Stephanie Brown
Aquaman - Arthur Curry and Jackson Hyde
Flash - Jay Garrick, Barry Allen, Wally West, and Avery Ho (no spelling variation like the rest of the Justice League of China)
Green Lantern - Alan Scott, Hal Jordan, John Stewart, Guy Gardner, Kyle Rayner, Simon Baz, Jessica Cruz, and Sojourner Mullein.
Wildcat - Ted Grant and Yolanda Montez
Doctor Mid-Nite - Pieter Cross and Beth Chapel
Green Arrow - Oliver Queen and Connor Hawke
Blue Beetle - Ted Kord and Jaime Reyes
Atom - Ray Palmer and Ryan Choi

[Mantis-Ray]

https://twitter.com/TomTaylorMade/st...80137280913824

There's something kinda funny how he's the only writer still onboard with their legacy character.

Its not like John Ridley is announcing a new Jace book or Yara Flor is getting a new solo (she's instead going to be on a team-book by Josie Campbell)

[ZuLuLu]

There's something kinda funny how he's the only writer still onboard with their legacy character.

Its not like John Ridley is announcing a new Jace book or Yara Flor is getting a new solo (she's instead going to be on a team-book by Josie Campbell)

To be fair out of all three Taylor's book was the only one that had good to okay sales.

Plus Taylor just like to work with legacies because it gives him more freedom compared to working on major characters, I think it also the reason he likes AUs.

[garazza]

I'd say it probably has more to do with the fact that if they turned him back into a kid they wouldn't be able to do certain things with him.

I say the exact opposite is true. Keeping him aged up and as Superman is incredibly limiting and does not allow for any future stories because where else is the character supposed to go. DC artificially reached the end of the character before he even got his start.

Making him a kid again would actually allow them to do a lot more with the character, especially with him being bisexual, and they can keep in their back pocket him being older and Superman if they wanted to pull that trigger but that can only happen in the very, VERY far future.

And it would be odd anyway since Damian isn't a kid anymore either.

They obviously don't want to deal with little kids, and they want Jon and Damian to be older, so they can do more with them. That's why they didn't deage Jon despite the fact, that they were undoing some controversial decisions from previous regime, and claimed, that they're listening. And that's the same reason why Damian keeps getting older, he's already fifteen in Batman and Robin, if I'm not mistaken.

He's 14. He's still a kid.

I swear the only people that say he's 15 are here and on Reddit who aren't even fans of him in the first place.

[garazza]

Amazing how hard DC has failed this character. At this point they clearly don’t even care at all about him and are just letting Taylor do what he wants while they focus on Clark to prep for Legacy. I think the only way to fix Jon is to kill him off and then do a radical revamp of him once he returns after keeping him dead for a while. Frankly though, I’d rather they focus on building up other members of the Superfamily like Kenan, Kara, and Kon.

I'm personally pushing for whatever event(s) that DC chooses to derail itself with to conclude with "The Return of Superboy."

It would be hype, something will matter for once, and fans would actually care and be invested.

[Factor]

To be fair out of all three Taylor's book was the only one that had good to okay sales.

Plus Taylor just like to work with legacies because it gives him more freedom compared to working on major characters, I think it also the reason he likes AUs.

That’s not entirely true. Yara’s was outselling WW before delays killed the hype.

[Vordan]

I doubt they will ever turn him back to a kid, anyways.
At this point he has being a teenager for the same amount of time that he was a kid, if not more.

Longer. He debuted in 2015, got aged up in 2018, so generously we had 3 years of kid Jon. 2019-2023 is 4 years, meaning Jon being a kid is now the weird aberration in terms of the character’s history. They won’t be deaging him, if anything Damian will get aged up, especially since the real world actor who plays DCU Damian is unlikely to be a little kid.