I thought "Shadow Clones" was a Naruto thing?
"The White Queen welcomes you, TO DIE!"
As a somewhat lapsed Naruto fan, yes, that is most likely where the name came from, though I am tempted to argue that the "Shadow" in "Shadow Clones" is a reference to the "shadow side" of Jungian psychology, which embodies aspects of a person's character that a person prefers to hide from themselves and/or others. Basically, each of those evil Gwen clones who've been hybridized with members of Spider-Man's classic rogues gallery represents an aspect of Gwen herself that Gwen would rather repress or deny. Kind of like what happened in Gwen-Verse, only the doppelgangers are evil.
The spider is always on the hunt.
I liked Gwen in Spectacular Spider-Man and The Amazing Spider-Man. Ultimate Gwen was pretty cool.
Spider-Gwen is fun but she feels more limited than Miles or Cindy. I'm not sure leaving Earth 65 was a good idea.
Last edited by the illustrious mr. kenway; 01-23-2023 at 06:50 PM.
"He's pure power and doesn't even know it. He's the best of us."-Matt Murdock
"I need a reason to take the mask off."-Peter Parker
"My heart half-breaks at how easy it is to lie to him. It breaks all the way when he believes me without question." Felicia Hardy
The appeal of Spider-Gwen is that she is reverse Gwen Stacy-616. Gwen Stacy-616 is the love interest who died. Spider-Gwen is the Gwen Stacy who is the protagonist and who lost her love interest.
There are four problems that she has:
1) she just isn't very similar to any other version of Gwen Stacy, especially Earth-616 or Emma Stone's. Without that link she's a spider-woman with a cool costume.
2) she hit the world at just the right moment when a lot of people were generally annoyed with how Stone's version of the character had been fridged. The time of that momentum has passed.
3) the momentum was used up when the writers put her through the wringer and had her lose her powers and make a deal with evil Murdoch to get them back. That ran directly counter to the appeal of the character, which appeal was that she was the one who survived and got powers. She needed to be no more pessimistic and angsty than early eighties Spider-man. (It didn't help that the plot was completely misconceived, with evil Murdoch's motives not making any sense outside comic villainy.)
4) the ItSV films set her up as the love interest for Miles Morales. Much as the first film was one of the best animated or superhero films ever and exposed her to a wider audience, her thing is that she's Not the love interest. If she's the love interest for a better established male character she loses much of her point.
Petrus Maria Johannaque sunt nubendi
Wouldn’t mind them doing that as between the comic arc they tried to push it in and the movie, the pairing felt kinda forced. Also doesn’t help that, even if this is an alternate version of her, Gwen is more known as Peter’s love interest so it felt weird them trying to push her as Miles’.
If I recall there wasn’t an interview about that. The spider-besties was just a twitter post one of their least liked twitter post cause knowbody was believing what the account poster was saying compared to what lord&miller have been hinted at in recent interviews. During the last q&a that came after the second trailer dropped they did say it will be hard for them but their relationship will continue to evolve threw out the film. Hailee Steinfeld Even says no matter far apart they are they will find some way back to one another. I think it’s best we just wait and see cause it seems to me like they are developing their relationship naturally taking their time with it instead of rushing.