Steve Rogers/Captain America Appreciation 2023

[Huntsman Spider]

I also liked the appearance of the Captain America of the Railways. Really great way to incorporate the United States of Captain America.

That was pretty cool. Hoping to see more of the Captains Network and glad they haven't been completely forgotten.

[Chris0013]

Not surprisingly, her stance on letting someone like Emma enter her mind I thought was an entirely valid one and only endeared me to the character more.

Marvel seems to be a little flippant with what they let telepaths get away with. How often has one or them wiped someone's mind...for the greater good.

I also liked the appearance of the Captain America of the Railways. Really great way to incorporate the United States of Captain America.

That was pretty cool. Hoping to see more of the Captains Network and glad they haven't been completely forgotten.

Well...I was wrong. Apparently some of them will be used beyond USoCA. Wasn't Jeremy Merrick shown earlier in the series?

I still say if most of them got into a real fight with some hard core villains they would be dead of maimed.

[Mantis-Ray]

Marvel seems to be a little flippant with what they let telepaths get away with. How often has one or them wiped someone's mind...for the greater good.

Didn't Maria Hill once wipe a bunch of supervillains minds to force them into a prison community and it was treated as a bad thing?

[the illustrious mr. kenway]

Ha, yeah.



Yes. Yes, indeed. I think the writing team on this is going to be doing the upcoming Guardians of the Galaxy series, too.

It would be cool if Cap and the Guardians had a crossover. It made me wonder if Steve was a Flash Gordon fan.

[Frontier]

The writers said they were going to incorporate the other Captain America's into the book although while I understood it in concept and liked some of their backups (even if I feel like they started really stretching it as the main story went along), I don't really care for seeing more of these characters. Although it looks like their role is going to be pretty marginal moving forward.

I have affection for that iteration as well (as well as the one that appeared in that last fantastic mini from some months back), but I did like how there was a naysayer in that group and it was her.

I haven't had a chance to check her mini out (and I didn't like the redesign of her suit) but I'm eager for a story where she's more than just "Captain America...but British."

[justanotherclassic]

Considering she's a spy with a lot of secrets to her chest, of course the most secretive character in the cast would prefer to keep the things she's hiding hidden

Everyone else is more honest and doesn't have much to hide

Tbh, I thought it was more of a nod to her House of M counterpart being a bit of an anti-mutant bigot -- especially the "genetic supremacist" line. It was a bit much going out of the gate. I do agree it makes her stand out a bit more, but I think it's kinda funny that "asshole" is the personality trait they're leaning into. (Thinking also on her telling Bucky she never liked him.) That being said, it was interesting Fury and Sharon seemed pretty chill about it since they're also spies with knowledge of state secrets. Then again, I guess they might also believe there's little point since Krakoa has a ton of extremely strong telepaths who likely can find out things anyway, but that's ust a headcanon.

I am enjoying this run immensely. The writers clearly know their Cap history and have made numerous nods to past runs of the character. Once again, the art is absolutely gorgeous and the coloring just elevates it.

[justanotherclassic]

It would be cool if Cap and the Guardians had a crossover. It made me wonder if Steve was a Flash Gordon fan.

One of the funniest things Brubaker did was make Steve wish he was an astronaut from time-to-time, so it fits his characterization.

[Chris0013]

Didn't Maria Hill once wipe a bunch of supervillains minds to force them into a prison community and it was treated as a bad thing?

Yeah...did no turn out well.

[the illustrious mr. kenway]

One of the funniest things Brubaker did was make Steve wish he was an astronaut from time-to-time, so it fits his characterization.

i gotta reread that run.

https://bigcomicpage.com/2014/01/20/...-for-dynamite/

this is what i hope his outfit for that teamup looks like.

[phonogram12]

Well...I was wrong. Apparently some of them will be used beyond USoCA. Wasn't Jeremy Merrick shown earlier in the series?

I still say if most of them got into a real fight with some hard core villains they would be dead of maimed.

I mean, I think this story clearly illustrates that fighting isn't a Captain America's only job. This is a network of Caps who can help him in any number of ways that doesn't necessarily have anything to do with fighting. I think Captain America's (any of them) main motivation should be to help/save people, not necessarily punch someone in the face.

I haven't had a chance to check her mini out (and I didn't like the redesign of her suit) but I'm eager for a story where she's more than just "Captain America...but British."

I loved the redesign, personally.

[Frontier]

I mean, I think this story clearly illustrates that fighting isn't a Captain America's only job. This is a network of Caps who can help him in any number of ways that doesn't necessarily have anything to do with fighting. I think Captain America's (any of them) main motivation should be to help/save people, not necessarily punch someone in the face.

I don't think that needs them to be full Caps (where it seems like they mostly do get into some action) and they still got dragged into fighting a Big Bad, which I think is where the story started getting to go a bit too far with it.

I loved the redesign, personally.

Too tactical for me, doesn't look great without the full Union Jack.

[Chris0013]

I mean, I think this story clearly illustrates that fighting isn't a Captain America's only job. This is a network of Caps who can help him in any number of ways that doesn't necessarily have anything to do with fighting. I think Captain America's (any of them) main motivation should be to help/save people, not necessarily punch someone in the face.

I don't think that needs them to be full Caps (where it seems like they mostly do get into some action) and they still got dragged into fighting a Big Bad, which I think is where the story started getting to go a bit too far with it.

If they did a revamp of the Hotline and Stars and Stripes network for the social media age I think they could work by being integrated into that. Field observers mixed into the computer operator group running a multi platform phone and social media data collection operation.

But if they want to show them getting into serious fights...even just with normals...they need to put them through some serious training. Lke Marine Boot Camp followed by Army Ranger School with some serious hand to hand thrown in.

[phonogram12]

I don't think that needs them to be full Caps (where it seems like they mostly do get into some action) and they still got dragged into fighting a Big Bad, which I think is where the story started getting to go a bit too far with it.

To each their own. But I think if you take away the Captain America name you kind of negate the whole purpose of that story, in that you don't have to look like Steve Rogers (tall, blond, and blue eyed) to be a Captain America, a message I fully support.

Too tactical for me, doesn't look great without the full Union Jack.

I love the tactical bit. Very modern.

If they did a revamp of the Hotline and Stars and Stripes network for the social media age I think they could work by being integrated into that. Field observers mixed into the computer operator group running a multi platform phone and social media data collection operation.

Or maybe the Hotline and Stars and Stripes Network can be integrated into the United States of Captain America? Just a thought.

But if they want to show them getting into serious fights...even just with normals...they need to put them through some serious training. Lke Marine Boot Camp followed by Army Ranger School with some serious hand to hand thrown in.

While I support the idea of them being trained (although they each seem to be getting by just fine on their own), I don't think their main purpose should necessarily to be to get into fistfights. I think one of the points of the United States of Captain America was to show you don't need a SSS or fight the Red Skull to be worthy of the name Captain America. There are fights at every level that need fighting, not just at the HYDRA level.

[Chris0013]

Or maybe the Hotline and Stars and Stripes Network can be integrated into the United States of Captain America? Just a thought.

Po-TAY-to / Po-TAH-to...just integrate into a larger more capable network.

While I support the idea of them being trained (although they each seem to be getting by just fine on their own), I don't think their main purpose should necessarily to be to get into fistfights. I think one of the points of the United States of Captain America was to show you don't need a SSS or fight the Red Skull to be worthy of the name Captain America. There are fights at every level that need fighting, not just at the HYDRA level.

That is my point as well...they should not. But they do need to be capable of defending. And they need to be able to operate in any environment. That is the kind of training I am talking about.

And not to beat a dead horse, but.....Steve has a history or specifically keeping untrained people out of the field.

I think a back up story where Steve has them brought somewhere and given some serious training that gets them not necessarily to Steve's, Bucky's or Sam's level but to maybe Kate Bishop's level.

[Frontier]

To each their own. But I think if you take away the Captain America name you kind of negate the whole purpose of that story, in that you don't have to look like Steve Rogers (tall, blond, and blue eyed) to be a Captain America, a message I fully support.

I get the message and the approach and I liked the Caps', I just don't need multiple people running around calling themselves Captain America. Although they'll probably appear far more infrequently moving forward.

I love the tactical bit. Very modern.

"Tactical" and "modern" are like my least favorite buzz words for Superhero costumes.

It just makes the chest area look incomplete incomplete.

While I support the idea of them being trained (although they each seem to be getting by just fine on their own), I don't think their main purpose should necessarily to be to get into fistfights. I think one of the points of the United States of Captain America was to show you don't need a SSS or fight the Red Skull to be worthy of the name Captain America. There are fights at every level that need fighting, not just at the HYDRA level.

Granted you probably get more page space with actual fisticuffs...