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    I know he was advertised as "Widlfire" in the 2003 Teen Titans cartoon comic.

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    Is anyone reading World's Finest: Teen Titans series?

    What do you think?

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    Quote Originally Posted by feriol View Post
    That was my point, it changes severely a lot of New Teen Titans issues. Maybe Starfire parents were not the stars of the book, but they were supporting cast. They were in more than a dozen of issues. Every time Kory went back to Tamaran, they were there.
    They probably want a more heroic direction for Blackfire then past eras.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jmc247 View Post
    They probably want a more heroic direction for Blackfire then past eras.
    Not sure why though. I guess because anti-heroes or anti-villains are in?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frontier View Post
    Not sure why though. I guess because anti-heroes or anti-villains are in?
    Anti villains can be launched
    Blackfire should have been an Outlaw now Starfire

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frontier View Post
    I know he was advertised as "Widlfire" in the 2003 Teen Titans cartoon comic.
    Same here. It also ended with Starfire confronting her sister & making a vow to continue searching for her brother (T_T)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frontier View Post
    Not sure why though. I guess because anti-heroes or anti-villains are in?
    Certain things really decrease the IP marketability of characters today in a way they didn’t 40 years ago.

    Think about the events in Titans characters past that don’t play well today for mass audiences and you have things potentially on the chopping block.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frontier View Post
    Not sure why though. I guess because anti-heroes or anti-villains are in?
    DC has a lot of characters who work better as anti-heroes or anti villains than actual villains and a bunch of villains who they push as anti-heroes or anti villains who are straight up villain.

    Blackfire as she is (was?) works fine though. Her sole focus was on Tamaran, rarely getting involved in Earth related affairs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rac7d* View Post
    Anti villains can be launched
    Blackfire should have been an Outlaw now Starfire
    She probably would have fit better but it also might've sanitized her too much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rac7d* View Post
    Anti villains can be launched
    Blackfire should have been an Outlaw now Starfire
    Disagree, Blackfire doesn't really have a reason to hang out on Earth with Jason of all people. That being said, I agree that Starfire shouldn't have been on that roster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by king81992 View Post
    Disagree, Blackfire doesn't really have a reason to hang out on Earth with Jason of all people. That being said, I agree that Starfire shouldn't have been on that roster.
    And then they course corrected with her solo book by basically turning her into an adult version of her cartoon self .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frontier View Post

    Back when they were trying to give Raven her cartoon design.
    They were also back then having her ‘03 cartoon persona replace her more complicated and nuanced past comics depiction as well. They backed off on that somewhat.

    With Trigon for awhile they tried to have the ‘03 animated depiction replace that in the comics as well, but that didn’t last long as that version was even more one note then the origional and that really lends itself only to a one and done story.
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    I almost hate to say it, but I would really like a story that re-elevates Trigon to the status he should be....demonic warlord something near the level of Darkseid in status. What's been done to his character is a travesty. He should be powerful and fearsome...as it is, my neighbor's four year old granddaughter could beat him with her cat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OBrianTallent View Post
    I almost hate to say it, but I would really like a story that re-elevates Trigon to the status he should be....demonic warlord something near the level of Darkseid in status. What's been done to his character is a travesty. He should be powerful and fearsome...as it is, my neighbor's four year old granddaughter could beat him with her cat.
    I agree, Trigon should be a Darkseid level of threat or at least be the most powerful being on the demon realm.
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    Quote Originally Posted by king81992 View Post
    Disagree, Blackfire doesn't really have a reason to hang out on Earth with Jason of all people. That being said, I agree that Starfire shouldn't have been on that roster.
    Simple. Just make up a reason.

    Or make a miniseries with jason working with her to get back to earth or survive in a dangerous area.
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