Wally West: The Flash Appreciation 2023

[Frontier]

So, i liked the first issue. There are interesting mysteries here to make you come back for the next issue and i really want to see what is the big bad of this arc.

Now, it was really wordy, i don't remember the last time i read a single comic book for this long (And english not being my first language, it tooks a little more time for me that might be for most people here.).

It kinda reminded me of Bendis, but Bendis bores me to death and this one didn't. I think it's a solid start.

Now, the art might be a struggle for some people, is definetly not your usual Flash art and everything is really dark, but since the motif of this arc is comic horror, i think it fits.

Another thing, the kids are still kids, it just looks like Deodato can't really draw them as kid instead of teenagers.

Also, he draws Wally like Chirs Evans. I'm not kidding, it's literally Chris Evans.

Evans would be a good Wally .

[Paul Nolan]

The way League of Comic Geeks works, it's actually normal for an issue #1 to have less pulls than long-running series.

Comparison with other recent Dawn of DC #1s:
Flash: 3,623
Wonder Woman: 3,651
Batman and Robin: 3,737
Birds of Prey: 2,450
Blue Beetle: 1,771
Fire & Ice: 1,277

Before Wally returned Flash was getting circa 4500 pulls, with Jeremy Adams' run the series infallibly added pulls every single issue taking it up to 7.5k.

Every jumping on point is also a jumpin off point. especially with a new needless number 1.

[Ilan Preskovsky]

Evans would be a good Wally .

He genuinely would be. I mean, he's already played like 5 comic book characters so why not another one?

[Drako]

I can see Chris Evan in this sketch too now.

[Waterfall]

The way League of Comic Geeks works, it's actually normal for an issue #1 to have less pulls than long-running series.

Comparison with other recent Dawn of DC #1s:
Flash: 3,623
Wonder Woman: 3,651
Batman and Robin: 3,737
Birds of Prey: 2,450
Blue Beetle: 1,771
Fire & Ice: 1,277

This looks pretty good. Wonder Woman also has the Tom King tax on sales.

I loved the book and I'm in for the long haul but the art is horrible. Dunno how long I can endure that to be honest.

Before Wally returned Flash was getting circa 4500 pulls, with Jeremy Adams' run the series infallibly added pulls every single issue taking it up to 7.5k.

Every jumping on point is also a jumpin off point. especially with a new needless number 1.

Flash always sells around WW's numbers and those WW numbers have extra because of Tom King. So what the other user says is correct, no 1 can be lower than longer running runs. Stop pushing an agenda that doesn't exist, the book is solid and many people are ready for the new direction.

[Drako]

It's funny how the narrative changes every time.
When Adams was on the book, the sales were horrible and the skies were falling, now all of the sudden his numbers were incredible.

[Waterfall]

It's funny how the narrative changes every time.
When Adams was on the book, the sales were horrible and the skies were falling, now all of the sudden his numbers were incredible.

Paul is trying to push an agenda with baseless accusations, on the other thread he implies Morrison/Miller run was cancelled because it was too niche when such thing wasn't the case at all!

The reality is that Adams run's popularity wasn't good at all because it wasn't promoted well, it hung around as long as it did thanks to good word of mouth. Current run started out very well. Instead of trying to ruin things for everyone and flat out making statements that are not true, maybe some of us should try to focus on other things!

[Pohzee]

I can see Chris Evan in this sketch too now.

Holy photo tracing Batman! That's distracting

[SanityOrMadness]

Holy photo tracing Batman! That's distracting

Deodato's been doing the actor-casting thing for years - I remember in his Thunderbolts run, Norman Osborn was blatantly Tommy Lee Jones. At least he's not Greg Land-level bad.

[Vordan]

Read the first issue and I liked it. It’s very compressed which is a huge plus. Seems like the pendulum is finally swinging in the other direction away from Bendis style decompression, we’re getting more one and dones and tightly plotted issues because writers know they might not get more than 6 issues at most.

It's funny how the narrative changes every time.
When Adams was on the book, the sales were horrible and the skies were falling, now all of the sudden his numbers were incredible.

Adams sales must have been bad for him to be taken off in the first place. Not much room to argue otherwise.

[Refrax5]

He genuinely would be. I mean, he's already played like 5 comic book characters so why not another one?

I feel like Evan is a little too male model looking, whereas I think of Wally being a little more mischievous boy-next-door looking.

[Waterfall]

Chris Pine during his Star Trek era was my fan cast for Wally back in the day.

Evans would make a great Barry if you ask me.

[Mantis-Ray]

Like I said on the issue thread, it was interesting.

Though pretty wordy and a bit too depressing, not looking forward to Wally and Linda having marriage problems. Though someone pointed out Linda could be having postpartum depression which is potentially interesting. And Wally not telling Mister Terrific whats happening is a dumb move.

Also the art is generally good but it does look weird in some levels, especially the final page where it has an odd "CG-ish" look to it. Like I'm sure the creature is intended to look weird but it felt really off to look at.

[Digifiend]

Another thing, the kids are still kids, it just looks like Deodato can't really draw them as kid instead of teenagers.

Also, he draws Wally like Chirs Evans. I'm not kidding, it's literally Chris Evans.

Yeah, Irey definitely looks too old - like 12 instead of 8. You could make out breasts on her chest! She should be as flat chested as Lisa Simpson (another 8 year old). Maxine did look younger - though that might only be because she's copied Irey's previous look by putting her hair into twintails!

Evans would be a good Wally .

He's already been both Johnny Storm and Steve Rogers (who both started as teen heroes in the comics but were slightly older in the films). Can't see him as Wally because he's aged out. Wally would likely be quite young when introduced in the movies.

Chris Pine during his Star Trek era was my fan cast for Wally back in the day.

Evans would make a great Barry if you ask me.

Though Barry would work! And he'd actually look more like the comics Barry than the three previous actors. Not sure he'd take another superhero role at all though, due to typecasting.

[dornwolf]

Like I said on the issue thread, it was interesting.

Though pretty wordy and a bit too depressing, not looking forward to Wally and Linda having marriage problems. Though someone pointed out Linda could be having postpartum depression which is potentially interesting. And Wally not telling Mister Terrific whats happening is a dumb move.

Also the art is generally good but it does look weird in some levels, especially the final page where it has an odd "CG-ish" look to it. Like I'm sure the creature is intended to look weird but it felt really off to look at.

Only thing I could think of with the Wally Linda stuff is they could possibly be telling a story about Linda dealing with postpartum depression