I AM The X-Men - Cyclops Appreciation 2023

[KurtW95]

"The Krakoa era has been very good for Scott"

So many of the current writers and editors do not understand the characters at all. The last writer on a flagship title, who understood them was Lobdell.

[FluffyCyclopsRLZ]

"The Krakoa era has been very good for Scott"

All those wonderful off-panel stories, I guess.

[Diammandis]

So many of the current writers and editors do not understand the characters at all. The last writer on a flagship title, who understood them was Lobdell.

Lobdell hasn't written for Marvel for years though. Scott has definitely been written well between when last Lobdell wrote and now

[KurtW95]

Lobdell hasn't written for Marvel for years though. Scott has definitely been written well between when last Lobdell wrote and now

Not any any of the flagship titles.

[Braxxer]

Said it once and going to say it again. They don’t have ideas for Scott. They don’t know what to do with him what would be new, fresh and interesting. For years he was the main (and only) leader of mutants but Krakoa changed it and introduced the council. Xoffice definitely decided to put old leaders in the background or make them boring/bad ones; Scott, magneot, Xavier, Wolverine and even rogue and kitty. They definitely want to put mostly x-women first (I don’t complain tho).

The best thing for Scott (imo)? war captains book or Scott going dark in fall of x; his wife dead, his son captured, his dream of United nation of mutants is ruined and council failed, mutants are seen as enemies again. There is no Krakoa and there is no council so Scott doesn’t need to play by their rules anymore. There is potential for that but the question is does xoffice wants Scott to be still A-list character or just be used to as a prop to sell books better

[Havok83]

Said it once and going to say it again. They don’t have ideas for Scott. They don’t know what to do with him what would be new, fresh and interesting. For years he was the main (and only) leader of mutants but Krakoa changed it and introduced the council. Xoffice definitely decided to put old leaders in the background or make them boring/bad ones; Scott, magneot, Xavier, Wolverine and even rogue and kitty. They definitely want to put mostly x-women first (I don’t complain tho).

The best thing for Scott (imo)? war captains book or Scott going dark in fall of x; his wife dead, his son captured, his dream of United nation of mutants is ruined and council failed, mutants are seen as enemies again. There is no Krakoa and there is no council so Scott doesn’t need to play by their rules anymore. There is potential for that but the question is does xoffice wants Scott to be still A-list character or just be used to as a prop to sell books better

Krakoa didnt change that, Schism did. He hasnt been the only mutant leader in quite some time.

[Braxxer]

Krakoa didnt change that, Schism did. He hasnt been the only mutant leader in quite some time.

Since astonishing X-men mutants basically count only on him. There were leaders but in the end scott has been the leader since astonishing

[Havok83]

Since astonishing X-men mutants basically count only on him. There were leaders but in the end scott has been the leader since astonishing

Thats simply not true. He was fro Astonishing through Schism where the mutants were divided and Wolverine took up the mantle as a leader that half of them followed and counted on. Scott definitely wasnt post-AvX where he became a fugitive and his brand of X-men largely werent recognized as being official. There was a whole period where he was dead (and teen Scott most certainly wasnt leading anything) and Storm became the primary followed by Kitty and then Jean. Scott didnt become a leader again till his return where almost everyone was presumed dead and he was leading about a dozen muants whom were dropping like flies under his watch. Its revisionist history to claim that this Krakoa era is what moved him from being the sole mutant leader. That simply isnt true

[R+R]

Cyclops doesn't need to be the sole leader, he needs to be well written and competent again. Gillen and Bendis did a great job for Cyclops. In the Krakoa era we just have the writers doing him dirty.

[Kal-El Summers]

Bendis was... okay until that Last Will/Tempus double-whammy happened.

[Havok83]

Scott and Jean keep dying on each other. They might rank up there as the most tragic love story in the X-world or even Marvel in general

[Ra-El]

Bendis had some good moments, he at least presented things from a perspective where Scott wasn't a psycho. Considering what was going on in Remender's Uncanny Avengers and in Aaron's WaTXM, it was a saving grace.

The biggest problem in Bendis Uncanny X-Men is for a time it looked like it as building towards something, but it all leaded to nothing.

[Gray Lensman]

Cyclops doesn't need to be the sole leader, he needs to be well written and competent again. Gillen and Bendis did a great job for Cyclops. In the Krakoa era we just have the writers doing him dirty.

Basically this. He doesn't need to be THE leader, and likely wouldn't want to be even if offered. But he should be A leader, and an important one at that. And a COMPETENT hero as well.

[Gray Lensman]

Scott and Jean keep dying on each other. They might rank up there as the most tragic love story in the X-world or even Marvel in general

Speaking of women with a bird motif, and captains with too much angst over doomed love, have you seen Ladyhawke? Your post made me think of it...

[R+R]

Scott and Jean keep dying on each other. They might rank up there as the most tragic love story in the X-world or even Marvel in general

The most boring love story too.

Basically this. He doesn't need to be THE leader, and likely wouldn't want to be even if offered. But he should be A leader, and an important one at that. And a COMPETENT hero as well.

And so Hickman chose to turn Cyclops into Captain Cameo and have him get beat up by grannies.