I'm with you, but most cases we get one and not the other, unless like all of us have said a writer is particularly interested in writing him. He's legit the Token "A lister" imo on the team. He's there because of his name, and not because of what the writer wants to do with him. Or when he is used, it's as a plot device to further a plot along and it never feels natural. That's how it feels.