Natasha Romanova: Black Widow Appreciation 2023

[Chris0013]

Not a team up. Nat IS Venom now. She's not teaming up with Eddie or Dylan, she's replacing them.
https://bleedingcool.com/comics/nata...ell-into-2024/

There is not enough profanity in the universe to express my contempt for this idea.

[Frontier]

So they've totally run out of ideas with Natasha, huh?

[Phoenixx9]

So they've totally run out of ideas with Natasha, huh?

Hahaha, I thought the same thing.

[Digifiend]

So they've totally run out of ideas with Natasha, huh?

Unfortunately even her base concept is outdated now. She was a Soviet spy who defected to the West. But since the USSR disbanded... there'd be no real reason for her to defect in the 21st century. At least not before 2022 (when Russia became our enemy again thanks to Ukraine).

[Chris0013]

Unfortunately even her base concept is outdated now. She was a Soviet spy who defected to the West. But since the USSR disbanded... there'd be no real reason for her to defect in the 21st century. At least not before 2022 (when Russia became our enemy again thanks to Ukraine).

No matter how friendly we may have behaved over the last couple of decades we still spy on each other like crazy.

[berserkerclaw]

What I dont get is if this isnt just a story and she takes over the book from Eddie(bad idea imo) how does this jive with Thunderbolts as Natasha is a member of that book....

[Digifiend]

Apparently Al Ewing, and therefore Eddie, is still on the book. Nat replaces Dylan. I wonder if she allows herself to be Venomised because Dylan's just a kid, and she doesn't think a kid should have a symbiote (though he's not the only one, Red Goblin is also a child with a symbiote - Normie Osborn, Norman's grandson).

I disagree about it not jiving with Thunderbolts. Venom's been a Thunderbolt before, when it was Flash Thompson wearing the symbiote, in the Red Hulk Thunderbolts series.

[chicago_bastard]

Even for Marvel standards this is a whole new level of awful.

My decision from a year ago to abandon this garbage company for good turns out to have been truly prophetic.

[chicago_bastard]

Unfortunately even her base concept is outdated now. She was a Soviet spy who defected to the West. But since the USSR disbanded... there'd be no real reason for her to defect in the 21st century. At least not before 2022 (when Russia became our enemy again thanks to Ukraine).

What does that have to do with anything regarding her current status? The US are not at war with Germany anymore so should Marvel also cancel Captain America because his origin is outdated?

[Digifiend]

His origin at least is stuck to World War II. Natasha's isn't glued to the Cold War, it's on the sliding timescale and thus is now in around 2008.

[ed2962]

No matter how friendly we may have behaved over the last couple of decades we still spy on each other like crazy.

Exactly. You might have to update the specifics to make it more contemporary, but like 90% of her origin still works.

[ComicNoobie]

I heard Black Widow is going to be the new Venom? I saw the suit and spoilers:

It just looks like another black suit Spider-Man outfit with the Black Widow symbol. Honestly it makes her look like yet another spider/venom character and overall nothing special.

end of spoilers I'm interested how that will carry over into Thunderbolts. But now that she has the symbiote she might actually become a Black Widow and eat Spider-Man.

[Matternativ]

It sounds like a dumb idea but if we are lucky it's dumb fun and I'm here for it.
I'm somehow looking more forward to this than Thunderbolts simply because that one will inevitably end after 4 issues and end up meaning nothing while "Winom" could be anything from absolutely awful to oddly entertaining.

But yeah I agree that she looks more like Spiderman than venom and it's odd.

[chicago_bastard]

What is this "looks like Spider-Man instead of Venom" talk about? Because she's slender instead of bulky?

I mean there's nothing that could save this abominable idea but there's still some room to make it even worse and making her look like The Hulk in a black Spidey costume would definitely achieve that.

[Matternativ]

It's a mix of several things, the leanness just being a minor one that's true for most "non-swole" heroes.
The big one I think would be the eyes which much like the logo are very straight and solid in design rather than being frayed in any way.