View Poll Results: Cah Wells turn things around?

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  • It's too late. Time for everyone to move on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TinkerSpider View Post
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    Oh wait, maybe NUC isn't pronounced "Nuke."

    My bad.
    Eh. Close enough.. But if Paul is what they consider "likable" to be...

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    Quote Originally Posted by TinkerSpider View Post
    Wells also included MJ sitting a dark closet so no one could overhear her or see her talking to Peter, which is usually code for "I have to keep this a secret out of fear of the reaction from whoever could hear/see me." We then see Paul referring to a past confrontation with Peter in ASM 3 and we see the shoving match in ASM 7, so coding Paul as someone whose reactions MJ doesn't want to trigger is all on Wells.



    Agree. Although I still wonder what he was doing on Jan 6 LOL.
    I think the intention had been "MJ is uncomfortable in this situation but we don't want you to know why" - whether it's just JRJR's style, the coloring, or JRJR knowing that Paul is the "threat" and that's subconsciously tinging his art (or a combination thereof), I think it's been a failure in execution. My guess for awhile has been MJ is undercover in some sense keeping track of Paul. Because he invaded the Capitol. More seriously, I think she's upset with Peter about why she's in this situation
    Blue text denotes sarcasm

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    Quote Originally Posted by bob.schoonover View Post
    Thank you, that makes sense.
    What about Nasty Unbelievable Character ( NUC)?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevinroc View Post
    Paul is described as "conservative".

    The real mystery is "What did Paul do on January 6th?"
    Paul What's-His-Name Agent of Hydra!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Knightsilver View Post
    Paul What's-His-Name Agent of Hydra!
    Paul Bailey: Doctor of Beyond

    "The Enigma Force is not a tool to be manipulated by mortals. The Enigma Force comes to those it deems worthy. What temerity, what arrogance, makes you think you are worthy? Have you not all made mistakes? Unforgiveable ones?" - Captain Universe

    "Call me an Avenging Angel, Baron, come to safeguard Earth...call me CAPTAIN UNIVERSE!" - Ray Coffin

    "You're my heart, Mary Jane Watson...you're my jackpot." - Peter Parker

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    Peter was supposed to be treated like a creepy ex-husband stalking MJ. Even the new Miles Morales series referred to Peter as if he had lost his mind.

    That's an uphill battle for any writer. And it's clear that Wells did not deliver on selling that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainUniverse View Post
    Paul Bailey: Doctor of Beyond

    That fits. He must've done some unsavory brain alterations on most of the characters in this run.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevinroc View Post
    Peter was supposed to be treated like a creepy ex-husband stalking MJ. Even the new Miles Morales series referred to Peter as if he had lost his mind.

    That's an uphill battle for any writer. And it's clear that Wells did not deliver on selling that.
    Trying to turn the star of the book into a creep to push your OC. How could that possibly fail?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Knightsilver View Post
    That fits. He must've done some unsavory brain alterations on most of the characters in this run.
    Definitely, no one feels like themselves in this run at all. It's like...looking in a mirror, darkly.
    "The Enigma Force is not a tool to be manipulated by mortals. The Enigma Force comes to those it deems worthy. What temerity, what arrogance, makes you think you are worthy? Have you not all made mistakes? Unforgiveable ones?" - Captain Universe

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    "You're my heart, Mary Jane Watson...you're my jackpot." - Peter Parker

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    Quote Originally Posted by bob.schoonover View Post
    In context, that seems more like stage directions than an appeal to the audience, e.g. "don't hint at anything menacing, don't tip at a later reveal, draw him happy."
    Yeah. The panel descriptions in a comic script are there for the artist. The audience typically doesn't see them. John Romita Jr. was told to draw him warm and likeable in that panel, and that's what he did.

    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Rat View Post
    It does goes to show how inept Zed and by extent Romita Jr are at their jobs. The stage direction and art always made MJ look like she was terrified of Paul and pined for Peter. Is it any wonder I thought he was abusive? At least now I think of him more that he's a simp and a non-entity and MJ wears the balls in the family.
    That's a gross attitude.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lee View Post
    John Romita Jr. was told to draw him warm and likeable in that panel, and that's what he did
    The audience in reality didn't see it that way. But you keep telling yourself that

    Quote Originally Posted by Lee View Post
    That's a gross attitude.
    I bet you think I have cooties too
    Last edited by Matt Rat; 02-06-2023 at 12:37 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainUniverse View Post
    Definitely, no one feels like themselves in this run at all. It's like...looking in a mirror, darkly.
    It would be easy to attribute all of this to the characters being corrupted by living in a Mephisto created reality...that's how bad this has gotten. Marvel won't go there of course...but it makes perfect sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Knightsilver View Post
    It would be easy to attribute all of this to the characters being corrupted by living in a Mephisto created reality. Marvel won't go there of course...but it makes perfect sense.
    Spencer did somewhat insinuate MJ was affected in that sense during 'Last Remains'

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    Paul was clearly meant to come off more likeable than Peter when you had him go ahead and pay off the debt collector to leave Peter alone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Knightsilver View Post
    It would be easy to attribute all of this to the characters being corrupted by living in a Mephisto created reality. Marvel won't go there of course...but it makes perfect sense.
    Every day they don't we stray further from the light. It is time...time to go back...back to the past! Samurai Jack!

    Quote Originally Posted by Frontier View Post
    Paul was clearly meant to come off more likeable than Peter when you had him go ahead and pay off the debt collector to leave Peter alone.
    Eh, it felt like he was pretending to be nice. Not like he was actually doing it out of the goodness of his heart. Paul...is a badly written "character". Frankly, it would be better if he didn't exist.
    Last edited by CaptainUniverse; 02-06-2023 at 12:53 PM.
    "The Enigma Force is not a tool to be manipulated by mortals. The Enigma Force comes to those it deems worthy. What temerity, what arrogance, makes you think you are worthy? Have you not all made mistakes? Unforgiveable ones?" - Captain Universe

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    "You're my heart, Mary Jane Watson...you're my jackpot." - Peter Parker

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