Nightwing's New Justice League(?) questions

[Brian Adkins]

At the end of DARK CRISIS ON INFINITE EARTHS #7 : DAWN OF THE DCU, Batman tells Nightwing: "After all we've been through, the League felt we needed time to rethink the Justice League. It needs more than new members. It needs to find a new mission. A new legacy." "But if anyone is going to lead us all into the future...it's going to be you. (Nightwing)" Nightwing says that's a lot to think about but he has some ideas.
So...is Nightwing going to be the new leader of the Justice League? You know, again? lol He's done it twice before, yes?
If so, what will be this new mission statement?
Who will be the new members?
Or is this just alluding to him making another Titans team with the "usual suspects"? Exp: Donna Troy,Roy Harper,etc.?
I'm sure the League- in whatever form will be fighting those certain characters at the end of the book. (I didn't want to spoil that)
Anyway, looking forward to the replies! Thanks!

[Dr. Poison]

I'm not sure that this team could be successful in the long run. As Brian stated, Nightwing has lead the Justice League twice before and the 2nd time, Donna, Jesse Quick, and Supergirl were along for the ride which made the roster seem very Titans-esque. Neither time did the book last more than a few years without DC needing to bring back the big guns.

[Timber Wolf-By-Night]

Unpopular Opinion: The League's static membership being defined by "DC's greatest heroes" is simultaneously a blessing and a curse.

[king81992]

At the end of DARK CRISIS ON INFINITE EARTHS #7 : DAWN OF THE DCU, Batman tells Nightwing: "After all we've been through, the League felt we needed time to rethink the Justice League. It needs more than new members. It needs to find a new mission. A new legacy." "But if anyone is going to lead us all into the future...it's going to be you. (Nightwing)" Nightwing says that's a lot to think about but he has some ideas.
So...is Nightwing going to be the new leader of the Justice League? You know, again? lol He's done it twice before, yes?
If so, what will be this new mission statement?
Who will be the new members?
Or is this just alluding to him making another Titans team with the "usual suspects"? Exp: Donna Troy,Roy Harper,etc.?
I'm sure the League- in whatever form will be fighting those certain characters at the end of the book. (I didn't want to spoil that)
Anyway, looking forward to the replies! Thanks!

I assume Nightwing's new JL will be Titans plus a few other characters.

[Digifiend]

Unpopular Opinion: The League's static membership being defined by "DC's greatest heroes" is simultaneously a blessing and a curse.

It shouldn't be. The Avengers are called Earth's Mightiest Heroes, when they're really not (Captain Marvel and Thor probably qualify, but not Black Panther, Captain America, or Hawkeye). The Justice League have a similar nickname - World's Greatest Heroes, right? But again, Black Canary, Green Arrow, Batman. Low level or no powers. Definitely not as powerful as certain Titans (Starfire, Raven, Superboy). Those nicknames are nothing more than marketing.

[Riv86672]

Unpopular Opinion: The League's static membership being defined by "DC's greatest heroes" is simultaneously a blessing and a curse.

^^^It is, in that fans rarely give any non-Big 7 line up a chance.
There are exceptions of course but, it’s a hard sell.

[Drako]

I'm not sure that this team could be successful in the long run. As Brian stated, Nightwing has lead the Justice League twice before and the 2nd time, Donna, Jesse Quick, and Supergirl were along for the ride which made the roster seem very Titans-esque. Neither time did the book last more than a few years without DC needing to bring back the big guns.

He lead the team for a arc in the first time and then he was Batman the second time. and the book ended with Flashpoint.

[Bruce Wayne]

Right the Robinson Justice League with DickBats was just buying time for the reboot. It wasn't cancelled because of sales, but rather DC rebooted.

[Ascended]

Unpopular Opinion: The League's static membership being defined by "DC's greatest heroes" is simultaneously a blessing and a curse.

Is that a unpopular opinion? I thought it was practically common wisdom?

The League really is sort of trapped by the Big 7, who are themselves somewhat contained by it. I don't think that's a bad thing, necessarily. The JSA wouldn't feel like the JSA without Allan, Jay, and Ted right? Even though they weren't always the core of that team, they're seen as such now and it's unlikely to change anytime soon. Likewise, the League is seen as the Big 7 and anything else is perceived as illegitimate these days.

The solution seems pretty obvious to me though. Don't put Dick in charge of a new League. We went from the Justice Society to the Justice League. Just have Dick take us to the Justice....whatever. I favor Justice Legion, myself, but whatever name continues the "Justice" evolution is fine. That sorta thing has been half-assed tried before, but right now, done smart, DC has a chance to make it work and make it stick.

Then you're left with the notion that the League is seen as the alpha level team, and "tomorrow's greatest heroes....today!" isn't going to supplant that. But again, the solution seems pretty straight forward right? If readers won't accept the idea that the League isn't the end-all, be-all, only place for the best of the best to hang....then level them up to the point they're beyond the metric. League's been cosmic far more than they've been anything else for a while now, just make it official. When the League go on missions, they're usually off-world somewhere. The universe's greatest heroes, exploring the Source Wall or the 64th century or stopping the Khund/Dominator War. Dick's new Justice Legion (or whatever name) step up to fill the void; earth's greatest heroes. But of course, threats to earth come from all kinds of places so trips through space/time, whatever, are gonna be plenty common too. But you can "trick" the reader into accepting Dick's team as the world's greatest heroes just by saying the League are bigger than the world....despite there being no real, functional difference in their stories. And before you know it, people have gotten used to the idea that when earth is under fire, it's Nightwing leading the charge. Not because he's better than Batman, fans wouldn't believe that, but because Batman's ascended out of the discussion.

All that, or just limit the League to miniseries and Events while Dick's new team carries the Justice ongoing.

[NaVi]

The problem with the JL is that it is the ultimate weapon on Earth, that's why seeing a team without Superman, Batman, WW, you don't believe it, the threat isn't that big if those 3 aren't fighting.

[Riv86672]

The problem with the JL is that it is the ultimate weapon on Earth, that's why seeing a team without Superman, Batman, WW, you don't believe it, the threat isn't that big if those 3 aren't fighting.

^^^I can see that.
Its hard to to get fans to accept a non Trinity team.

[Sutekh]

The solution seems pretty obvious to me though. Don't put Dick in charge of a new League. We went from the Justice Society to the Justice League. Just have Dick take us to the Justice....whatever. I favor Justice Legion, myself, but whatever name continues the "Justice" evolution is fine. That sorta thing has been half-assed tried before, but right now, done smart, DC has a chance to make it work and make it stick.

Now my fever-brain has gone off on a wild tangent to come up with names;

Justice Legion
Justice Friends
Justice Titans
Justice Battalion
Justice Fellowship
Justice Overwatch
Justice Executive
Justice Company

and then the really silly ones;
Global Justice
Team Justice
Teen Justice
Secret Justice
Extreme! Justice

[ZuLuLu]

Now my fever-brain has gone off on a wild tangent to come up with names;

Justice Legion
Justice Friends
Justice Titans
Justice Battalion
Justice Fellowship
Justice Overwatch
Justice Executive
Justice Company

and then the really silly ones;
Global Justice
Team Justice
Teen Justice
Secret Justice
Extreme! Justice

The rumored 5G Justice Alliance was not a bad name.

[Timber Wolf-By-Night]

The rumored 5G Justice Alliance was not a bad name.

But now it's intrinsically linked to 5G and thus tainted. You don't validate bad ideas like 5G by cherry-picking parts of it and saying "Let's use this and hope everybody forgets where we got it from."

[ZuLuLu]

But now it's intrinsically linked to 5G and thus tainted. You don't validate bad ideas like 5G by cherry-picking parts of it and saying "Let's use this and hope everybody forgets where we got it from."

No one but a few of us who pay close attention to this will know the connections between the name Justice Alliance and 5G, most comic readers don't even know what 5G is.

I'll bet more people associate 5G with the Coronavirus and microchip conspiracies than a line that DC didn't launch