I find it weird that Didio allowed nuance in WW book and at the same time Johns was allowed to go in opposite direction. Didio also had nothing to do with the movie so I'd guess that it is mostly Johns pushing that plot point?
I find it weird that Didio allowed nuance in WW book and at the same time Johns was allowed to go in opposite direction. Didio also had nothing to do with the movie so I'd guess that it is mostly Johns pushing that plot point?
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On top of that, before this story Max WAS a good guy. He might have started out shady, but he had his big redemption arc and became one of the good guys. Then they just threw that all away to use him as a bad guy because ... I don't know. Because they thought he name sounded like a badguy?
It would have been a lot easier to accept WW taking out Generic Senator Evilman than it was to take out a guy that used to Bwahaha with the Justice League.
Well, the story actually played on that. Blue Beetle was shocked and appalled to find out it was Max who was being evil... but it kinda.... didn't really have an explanation. The most reasonable explanation? Well, the idea would seemingly be that he was just... playing at being a good guy?
Does that actually make sense in-universe though? Hmmm.... I've seen arguments for both yes and no, and... hard to say definitely which is "right".
Exactly.
The Snyderverse literally just consists of Man of Steel, Batman v Superman, Wonder Woman and Zack Snyder's Justice League (as well as the unreleased David Ayer's Suicide Squad). The Snyderverse came to an end in 2021 with the release of ZSJL.
WW84 doesn't exist in the Snyderverse (it literally can't, the events contradict the events already established in the Snyderverse). It was an attempt by Patty Jenkins and Geoff Johns to start a new continuity that adhered to their (misguided) 'hope and optimism' ethos. Jenkins and Johns are 100% responsible for anything positive and anything negative that movie did.
I believe the point Agent Z is making is that the Snyderverse is not synonymous with the DCEU, which is what you're really referring to.
Peacemaker, Black Adam and WW84 don't exist in the Snyderverse. They do in the DCEU, which is (supposedly) coming to an end at the end of this year.
I didn't say it was. I said they were extensions, which they are. Also, my original point and my follow-up point were about the idea that WW84 somehow singlehandedly ended a cinematic universe. It did not. There were several factors, including the rejection of the Snyderverse among other factors, that seemingly ended that universe.
Wonder Woman did nothing wrong.
WW told SM. In one of her more recent comics. She has less enemies than Superman for a reason. Anyone remember which comic that was in? I think she told him this on the watchtower.
Only some of the worst writing for Diana:
See, I ignored the art and thought the rest of that thought was "...because I help to heal them!"
...but then I looked at her face and realized yeah, not so much.