Justice Society of America #2 Review/Discussion

[Mantis-Ray]

I don't mind the concept but we really gotta stop using the Dark subtitle to designate a magical faction version

[Bruce Wayne]

Because none of the previous names stuck.

We have had:
-Trenchcoat Brigade (in the Berger adjacent stuff)
-Primal Force/Leymen (post-Zero Hour)
-Sentinels of Magic (post-Days of Judgement)
-Shadowpact (post-Infinite Crisis)
-Secret Seven (in Flashpoint).

None of these names stuck. JLD/JSD has lasted the longest by far.

If someone gave them a new name literally the next guy will change it for his own idea.

[CaptCleghorn]

Because none of the previous names stuck.

We have had:
-Trenchcoat Brigade (in the Berger adjacent stuff)
-Primal Force/Leymen (post-Zero Hour)
-Sentinels of Magic (post-Days of Judgement)
-Shadowpact (post-Infinite Crisis)
-Secret Seven (in Flashpoint).

None of these names stuck. JLD/JSD has lasted the longest by far.

If someone gave them a new name literally the next guy will change it for his own idea.

JSD has lasted for a few pages at most. It's a pathetic and unoriginal attempt to utilize the idea of a different JL team dealing with magic to the JSA team and not even coming up with a new naming convention.

[HsssH]

I don't think that Secret Seven was a serious attempt at creating a magic based team, it felt like a placeholder for JLD since I think same writer wrote both?

But other than that yeah, JL in the name is going to move extra units and thats why we have it. JSD would be redundant.

[the illustrious mr. kenway]

*looks at discourse arising from my snide comment*

I didn’t quite intend for the going off topic.

Considering the time period you’d think a JS Europe of JS International would be more likely than a JS Dark?

I’m assuming the focus on Helena is A) Bat connection and B) making sure Helena sticks around as a woman out of time?

Possibly. This series does revamp her well enough as a character. So she could hang out with Power Girl and Lilith.

[sifighter]

I don't mind the concept but we really gotta stop using the Dark subtitle to designate a magical faction version

It will only be a problem once they announce Batman Dark

[the illustrious mr. kenway]

It will only be a problem once they announce Batman Dark

Lol Batman Noir would be classier.

[HsssH]

I believe there is a line of black/white Batman collections called Batman Noir.

[the illustrious mr. kenway]

I rather it was set on Earth 2 but I'm fine with the JSA run so far. The timeskips at the end when she gets thrown from 1940s JSA to Khalid’s time is the only confusing part.

[TheCasualReader]

This is the very original Mister Miracle, Thaddeus Brown, whose identity Scott Free took in the original Kirby Mister Miracle. The point is Johns retconned him into a Golden Age hero presumably since Morrison had done the opposite and made Shiloh Norman into Scott's successor in Seven Soldiers.

Huh, didn't know the Mister Miracle mantle pre-dated Scott Free. I just looked him up and he sounds kinda cool, but I still don't get why he's leading the JSD since he doesn't have any magical powers.

[Dataweaver]

Huh, didn't know the Mister Miracle mantle pre-dated Scott Free.

Only technically. Originally, he was a one-off character whose only role was that he was the guy who gave Scott Free his costume. This version greatly expands his role into being a Golden Age hero in his own right.

I just looked him up and he sounds kinda cool, but I still don't get why he's leading the JSD since he doesn't have any magical powers.

I'm curious about that, too.

[the illustrious mr. kenway]

Huh, didn't know the Mister Miracle mantle pre-dated Scott Free. I just looked him up and he sounds kinda cool, but I still don't get why he's leading the JSD since he doesn't have any magical powers.

Thaddeus could have some mystical abilities or have expierenced supernatural adventures.

[HsssH]

You don't need magical powers to be in JLD.

[Doctor Kent Nelson]

Calling them Shadowpact might've been better. JS Europe would've been cool.

Justice League of Mystics?

[CaptCleghorn]

Calling them Shadowpact might've been better. JS Europe would've been cool.

As much as I hate the idea of copying more modern ideas for the JSA retroactively, a Justice Society Europe could be very interesting particularly regarding the war.