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    What happened to Goddess in Infinity Crusade?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MajorHoy View Post
    Could one of them be a clone of the other?

    Marvel does seem to like cloning . . .
    Eve vs Ayesha might be fun though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marhawkman View Post
    Eve vs Ayesha might be fun though.
    But maybe Eve is Ayesha.
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    This is actually probably the fourth iteration. The Greg Pak Warlock Delta should be probably be counted as the third iteration of the female Adam Warlock take if Ayesha and Goddess are first and second.

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    Well, there was HER who became Paragon, then Kismet and later Ayesha. But they were the same person, the female version of Adam.

    In contrast, The Goddess appeared later (1993) as the female aspect of the male Adam.

    If this Eve is shown to be different, it will probably be the fifth iteration of the female version.
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    A more creative appearance would have been nice. But I guess we'll go with it.

    Does Eve have a Magus counterpart, I wonder?

    Would Her-lock be an acceptable nickname for Eve? Not that we call Adam, Him-lock, but just spit-balling here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Golden_Guardian View Post
    I have not read the article or anything about the new character, but how is my aim: Is she EVEN MORE POWERFUL than Adam Warlock?
    2023 Marvel...so I'm going to say yes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Golden_Guardian View Post
    I have not read the article or anything about the new character, but how is my aim: Is she EVEN MORE POWERFUL than Adam Warlock?
    Well, in most plots the villain starts off being more powerful. It's part of establishing the threat factor for the audience.

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    It should be Adam and Steve.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tofali View Post
    What happened to Goddess in Infinity Crusade?
    She was sucked into the Soul Stone. She was in there with the Magus.

    The Goddess was not real a copy of Adam since she was actually a part of Adam he expelled when he got the Infinity Gauntlet. She was his "good" side like the Magus was his "bad" side. Warlock thought to not abuse the power of the Gauntlet he had to be totally neutral so he expelled both parts out of himself and they took the forms of the Goddess and Magus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JudicatorPrime View Post
    Well, in most plots the villain starts off being more powerful. It's part of establishing the threat factor for the audience.
    No, only 2023 Marvel does this, apparently.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bunch of Coconuts View Post
    No, only 2023 Marvel does this, apparently.
    I do love that we're in this prickly age where everyone finds something to rail about; every pressure, no matter how gentle, a deep-tissue wound; every divergent, illuminating epiphany, a blight.

    Safe bet that while Marvel has always had powerful women -- yet fewer powerful women villains relative to their male counterparts -- Eve will start off with massive power only to fade. She's little more than a trope. Marvel typically scales back its cosmic types post-introduction, whether we're talking about Celestials, Galactus, the Beyonder, Korvac, Dormammu, the Phoenix Force, Knull, Thanos, Sentry, God Emperor Doom or whomever. Pretty sure that proclivity will continue with Eve.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grapeweasel View Post
    It should be Adam and Steve.
    Steve Warlock? Which pronoun do they use or is it a non-binary Warlock?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mutant God View Post
    Steve Warlock? Which pronoun do they use or is it a non-binary Warlock?
    Hmmm...now that you mention it...

    Since Carol isn't using the name "Binary" anymore, maybe they should give that name to Ayesha/Her/Kismet/Paragon? And sure, please add Eve to that gumbo pot while we're at it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JudicatorPrime View Post
    Hmmm...now that you mention it...

    Since Carol isn't using the name "Binary" anymore, maybe they should give that name to Ayesha/Her/Kismet/Paragon? And sure, please add Eve to that gumbo pot while we're at it.
    I thought a different new character was using the Binary name now?

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