Is the Frightful Four a lame supervillain team?

[the illustrious mr. kenway]

You know, did they miss the opportunity to do something new with The Maker? The evil Reed from the Ultimate Universe. Forming a new Frightful Four.

The maker is still around so there's still time to do that.

[Triniking1234]

Man, they spent a lot of time keeping The Maker away from Reed. I don't even think the meeting in Hickman's Ultimate Invasion counts since the continuity in that book is ass.

[Gaastra]

What about the evil reed from what if 1 universe? (spidey joins ff issue and its follow up stories) Man, what's with all the evil reeds running around? Is he still alive?

[Phoenixx9]

The Wizard was originally the Torch's foe, waaaay back in Strange Tales, early '60s.
And he was, frankly, weird and ugly looking. Kind of scary to me as a kid (8 or 9). I remember the one where Torch got Sue to invisibly mess with the Wizard, some of her tricks.

Anyway, how did Wizard stop being so homely?

He grew a beard? Bigger helmet to cover more of his face?

[Phoenixx9]

What about the evil reed from what if 1 universe? (spidey joins ff issue and its follow up stories) Man, what's with all the evil reeds running around? Is he still alive?

There is also the Reed Richards of Counter-Earth, aka The Brute! I want to see him again!

[Triniking1234]

Yeah, I think the Brute was on the Frightful Four in that arc where Reed was losing his powers and that got resolved in time to fight Doom in 199 and 200.

[Phoenixx9]

Yeah, I think the Brute was on the Frightful Four in that arc where Reed was losing his powers and that got resolved in time to fight Doom in 199 and 200.

Yes, I think the story resolved about 14-18 issuues or so before the 200th issue.