When Tim was introduced, efforts were made not to just throw him into dangerous situations unprepared. Bruce insisted that he undergo a year's worth of training, with both Bruce and Dick serving as trainers; and even after Tim put on the costume, he decided that he wasn't ready yet, and took a trip to Europe to further prepare himself. So no, DC didn't show that they didn't care about consequences when they introduced Tim.
I will agree that the revolving door of death had already begun to turn by the time Jason was resurrected. That said, it had only begun to turn: Oliver Queen was resurrected in 2000; a new version of Kara Zor-El was introduced in 2004; and Hal Jordan was reborn more or less simultaneously with Jason's return. At the time, that was pretty much it.
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It depends on the circumstances. Ronnie Raymond and Hal Jordan arguably getting screwed out of their positions wouldn't have provided their successors much support by default. I personally felt Ted Kord got screwed with his sensationalist death but the team behind Jaime Reyes played it smart by making him a different type of Blue Beetle who didn't get off on putting down his predecessor. I can't speak for the Green Arrow fans when Oliver Queen got blowed up and his son took the reigns.
Oh, I'm not arguing that they're predecessors didn't get screwed. I'm just saying that the argument that you should only publish heroes who have established fanbases would have excluded Kyle, Connor, Jaime, and Jason from ever seeing the light of day in the first place.
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No it's not the same definition because they had never been tried before, and as the four you listed are all largely of mixed or non European heritage, I doubt that any of them would be killed off, as it probably wouldn't be good optics at this point and time, so they don't really apply to the question.
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They killed off a Robin because a Batman writer hated the concept of a teenage and felt it was unrealistic for Batman to bring a kid into the vigilante life. And then a year later introduced a new Robin to take his place.
You're forgetting Superman's death and resurrection in 90s and Wonder Woman who'd been killed twice and brought back twice. Circe, Raven and Artemis were also killed and then resurrected.
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That's kind of like pissing on a guy's leg and saying it's raining.
While Ted was alive, he had his own series before joining the successful Giffen/DeMatteis Justice League run. He changed with the times to the Extreme Justice title, and naturally was left out of Grant Morrison's league since he wasn't a founding member nor part of the Bat- or Super- family. Ted still continued to make sporadic appearances to the appreciation of his fans.
In death, Ted got the dignity of being a mystery corpse on a cover, a Cassandra figure, and a stepping stone for other heroes' continuing or all-new adventures. Yay for Ted.
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